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Memory and pain
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: qpet-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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12 Jan 2003 06:33 PST
Expires: 11 Feb 2003 06:33 PST Question ID: 141777 |
Why don't human beings have a "memory" of pain? |
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Re: Memory and pain
Answered By: alanna-ga on 12 Jan 2003 21:55 PST Rated: |
Hello qpet-ga, Your question is one of those elegant fundamental questions that I have asked myself and have heard others ponder. It has a simple answer and a frightfully complex answer rolled into one. You are asking, I trust, why we can't "refeel" pain. Painful impulses are carried by peripheral nerves which are the nerves outside the brain and the spinal cord. They are the nerves running to our fingers and toes, to our internal organs, to our muscles. When these nerves are excited in a painful way, they carry impulses to the brain and are perceived as pain. Much in the same way, sound waves hit the ear, are carried by sensory nerves to the brain and are heard as sound; a cookie melts in the mouth and is tasted; a feather brushes across the cheek and is perceived as a touch. Memory, on the other hand, is a neurologically different, highly complex function of the brain alone--the human's highly developed cerebral cortex. No nerves carry memory to the brain. You can read something by seeing the written page, and and you can memorize the words. But unless you have the book in front of you, you will never see the words, even though you can recite them. You can hear a nice melody played by your favorite group, and might even be able to sing it or play it on a musical instrument, but you will not be able to hear the original unless you put it in your DVD or MP3 player. Your memory is active, but your senses are useless. By the same token you can suffer pain, remember that you had it, but can not conjure up the actual, original pain--just as you could not conjure up an actual printed page, or the actual sound of the original musical group. That is the simple story. Recently researchers are connecting pain with memory. They have evidence that when the body is manipulated in a painful way as for, example when the abdomen is opened during surgery, certain specific cells in the brain are agitated and release chemical substances which evoke a memory of the pain. So while the patient feels no pain under the anesthesia of the operation, he or she does feel pain on awaking due to the action of the agitated cells. This is a possible explanation for post-operative pain. But once even very painful post-operative pain fades, it cannot be refelt. Best regards, Alanna-ga Google Answers Researcher answers.google.com When you're searching for information, Google Answers. Complexities in the Nervous Pathways Carrying Pain: From "Silent" C-fibers to Cingulate Gyrushttp://courses.umassmed.edu/mbb1/Limbic/CentralPain.cfm Harvard Gazette Archives Memories of Pain Can Come Back To Hurt ://www.google.com/search?q=memory+pain+site:.edu&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&start=20&sa=N Search strategies: CancerWeb Online Medical Dictionary search: pain, memory, peripheral nerves, http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?pain http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?memory http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?peripheral Starting Page: pain pathways http://www.startingpage.com/html/health.html Google: memory pain site:.edu ://www.google.com/search?q=memory+pain+site:.edu&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&start=20&sa=N |
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Re: Memory and pain
From: journalist-ga on 12 Jan 2003 09:16 PST |
To answer this question completely, one would have to query his or her creator should they believe in one. The probable answer is that humans (and, most likely, all other species) do not have the capacity to recall exact pain because if they did, they would be just as incapacitated by the memory as they were by the initial pain. Take, for instance, the amputation of a limb: If a person was able to recall the pain of that with 100% clarity, then the recurring memory would be just as crippling as the act itself. There would never be ease for the victim because the memory would conjure up the exact feeling of pain. Not being able to recall the feeling of pain seems to be a built-in survival skill for the species. There are, however, reports of an extended pain memory in some patients with fibromyalgia. Abnormal Pain Memory Helps To Explain Fibromyalgia http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/10/001030082926.htm You've asked a very interesting question. When I was a child and my mother told me of her excruciating pain during my birth, I asked her why anyone would have more than one baby if it hurt so much. Her answer was that "God doesn't let us remember pain." It's also interesting to note that I am an only child. ;) |
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Re: Memory and pain
From: justaskscott-ga on 12 Jan 2003 10:24 PST |
I have seen some support for the idea that people (babies, children, and adults) do remember pain, at least to some extent: "Babies Do Remember Pain", by David B. Chamberlain Ph.D. The Primal Psychotheraphy Page http://www.primalpage.com/babies.htm "Abstract - Summer 2000, Volume 5, Number 2: 161-168 - Accuracy of children's and parents' memory for a novel painful experience - MA Badali, RR Pillai, KD Craig, K Giesbrecht, CT Chambers" Pain Research & Management http://www.pulsus.com/Pain/05_02/bada_ed.htm "Pain and Memory", by Sun-Ok Song, MD and Daniel B. Carr, MD (Pain: Clinical Updates, Volume VII, Issue 1, Spring 1999) International Association for the Study of Pain http://www.halcyon.com/iasp/PCU99a.html Perhaps another Researcher will find that, in general, people don't remember pain. Or perhaps the question can be rephrased to ask why people don't remember a certain kind of pain (for instance, amputation of a limb, assuming that journalist-ga is right about that). |
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Re: Memory and pain
From: voila-ga on 12 Jan 2003 10:33 PST |
On the scientific side: http://www.iasp-pain.org/pinfopen.html http://www.iasp-pain.org/TC97MayJune.html |
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Re: Memory and pain
From: kewl2themax-ga on 20 Jan 2003 12:19 PST |
well that kinda leads to the question why we suffer when someone we loves dies. you might not be able to measure it but we have all experieced emotional pain. why we can carry that emotional baggage for years before we forget is a bit of a mistery especially considering if darwin is correct then why would we develop memories of pain if it were not for love then what reason could it be i bet darwin felt love but could never explain it thomo <>< |
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