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Subject: Registering an LLC
Category: Business and Money > Small Businesses
Asked by: focusonmbm-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 21 Jan 2003 09:50 PST
Expires: 24 Jan 2003 13:07 PST
Question ID: 146539
I would like to register an LLC, I have read a lot about registering
an LLC in the state of Delaware that it has great tax benefits that I
will only be taxed once and that I only have to pay tax if the
purchase went through Delaware.

My question is I don't know that much about how companies work, I want
to sell web hosting and computer consulting in the state of NJ.  As
for as web hosting clients, say there are NO clients from the state of
Delaware... That means that I have to pay no tax and I don't have to
charge tax to anyone.

I understand there is a filing fee of ~ $70 and if I choose an online
service to do this for me it can range up to $300 or $400.

If I were start an LLC in Delaware and get a registered agent for an
address in Delaware and had an incoming of $10,000 - None of my income
coming from Delaware, that means I have to pay no one taxes, correct?

I don't want to get in trouble and don't really have the money to pay
a lawyer for information.

If I can register an LLC for example, say $300 and have an annual fee
of $50 say.

What other fees are associated? Other than my $50/year, are there any
other fees that I have to pay to anyone else?
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The following answer was rejected by the asker (they received a refund for the question).
Subject: Re: Registering an LLC
Answered By: sweetcaro333-ga on 21 Jan 2003 13:11 PST
 
Dear focusonmbm-ga,

From your description, it sounds like you will be starting an
individually run small business or "consulting practice."  You may
want to consider filing as a Sole Proprietor rather than as a
corporation, never mind incorporating in another state.  They require
much less paperwork, fees, avoid corporate income tax and do not
require a lawyer's assistance to form.  Considering your hypothetical
$10,000/year income single person operation, this is the ideal form
for you.  You can always incorporate later as your business grows and
you see an advantage in doing so.

The type of business you will be running (web hosting, computer
consulting) does not involve large liabilities, loans, or much risk. 
Limited liability is not much of a concern in this case, as opposed to
a company like Ford with millions of debt and a product which can
malfunction and incur law suites.  If you wanted limited liability,
you would need a lawyer to help you form the corporation anyway,
because if you made any mistake in your incorporating papers and then
got sued or went bankrupt, a judge could pierce the corporate veil
("go after you personally") even if you are incorporated.

In general, a small business should be incorporated (if at all) in the
state
where it has its principal place of business, *not* Delaware (unless
that's its
headquarters) or some other widely  advertised locale.  The reason for
this is
that a Delaware corporation will be required to qualify as a foreign
corporation (which requires an initial filing fee) and thereafter to
pay annual
license or fees and state income taxes in the states where it is
actually doing
business, thus subjecting it to effective double taxation in most
cases.  While
there can be good reasons for choosing a particular corporate
domicile, in
general those reasons do not apply to small businesses contemplating
anyplace
other than their home state as the jurisdiction of incorporation. 
Furthermore, an LLC is a relatively new form of business, and thus
requires more assistance from a lawyer.

Sales taxes are derived based on two things. One, where is the
reciepient of
your product and two, where is the actual financial transaction taking
place
for the company fulfilling the order. It is immaterial where or how
the end
user ended up ordering the product. A web site, for sales tax
purposes, in
no different than mailing a paper catalog or other sales promotion. It
is
simply a vehicle for information transmission. Think about it? Would
you be
expected to pay taxes in state A simply because you have your paper
catalogs
printed in that state? Would New York charge state sales taxes on a
Virginia
company simply because they advertised in the New York Times?

In the case of New Jersey, some services are subject to state sales
tax.  You need to inquire with the New Jersey Departament of Revenue
to see if the services you will be providing are specifically subject
or exempt to state sales tax.  Remember, it is not you who will be
paying the tax, it will be your customers.  If every other business in
New Jersey has to charge tax as well, they will be used to it and it
should not have much effect on your business.

The bottom line is that as a Deleware corporation you might get away
with not charging sales tax on some items, such as your web hosting,
but the extra costs and hassle of incorporating out of state will be
greater than your savings, which remember are nil because you don't
pay sales tax anyway, your customer does.  All you do is collect the
tax for the government.  Your consulting services (if New Jersey taxes
them) would still be subject to sales tax because the service would be
rendered in New Jersey to a customer in New Jersey.

Sincerely,

sweetcaro333-ga
Reason this answer was rejected by focusonmbm-ga:
THIS IS NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR - I WANT A REFUND

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Subject: Re: Registering an LLC
From: nellie_bly-ga on 21 Jan 2003 18:09 PST
 
More than 308,000 companies are incorporated in Delaware, including 60
per cent of the Fortune 500 and 50 per cent of the companies listed on
the New York Stock Exchange.

By incorporating in Delaware, resellers can avoid state sales taxes,
personal property taxes, incomes taxes and intangible property taxes,
since the state does not apply these levies to state registered
corporations.

All Delaware corporations are only obligated to pay an annual
franchise tax. The tax is calculated based on authorized shares issued
by the corporation. The minimum annual franchise tax for a corporation
with up to 3,000 shares of no par or $.01 par common stock is $30,
plus a filing fee of $20. The minimum franchise tax hence totals only
$50 per year. The maximum franchise tax a corporation could pay is
$150,000, which would only apply to the largest of corporation. Note,
if the corporation does not conduct business in Delaware, than the
franchise tax is the only tax paid to Delaware.
http://thewhir.com/reseller/articles/margins.cfm

There is no corporate income tax for corporations incorporated
in Delaware but not transacting business in the state.
http://www.bizfilings.com/learning/learndelaware.htm

Search strategy: Delaware incorporation

Nellie Bly
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