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Subject:
Fresh Air during a Thunderstorm
Category: Science > Earth Sciences Asked by: markabe-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
09 Feb 2003 23:22 PST
Expires: 11 Mar 2003 23:22 PST Question ID: 159341 |
You know how when theres a thunderstorm, the air has that electrical charge to it? It smells fresh and you have twice as much energy as before. Well, I want to know how I can get that effect in my home all the time. One option that I was told about was ionisers. I bought two, but Ive stopped using them after six months since Ive noticed no effect from having used them. Are ionisers any good at all, and if so, which ones actually work? If they wont get me that charged air effect, then what will? | |
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Subject:
Re: Fresh Air during a Thunderstorm
From: ldavinci-ga on 10 Feb 2003 13:10 PST |
Ozone is highly unstable and in high doses could cause lung irritation and in severe causes wheezing, asthma and permanent reduction in lung effeciency. It is a by product of the ionization process that helps charge the dust particles to be attarcted and separated out from the incoming air. The effect during thunder storm is due to the combination of cool air, smell of the the warm air emanating from the soil(due to raindrops falling on dry soil) and pockets of ozone produced by a thunderstorm/corona discharge. You could probably create the similar effect using a humidifier(preferably an ultrasonic one), a blower fan and a car ionizer and some aroma spray(for the fresh soil smell). You have to make sure that the ionizer is activated by a timer apart from an arrangement to mix bursts of ozone rich air with high volume of fresh air. |
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Re: Fresh Air during a Thunderstorm
From: funkywizard-ga on 11 Feb 2003 06:09 PST |
I must agree with feilong-ga when he says that the smell you are referring to is ozone. In my recent studies of chemistry 106, my textbook says that lightning causes ozone which is what accounts for the smell. It further says that at ground level, ozone is a pollutant that can cause various problems because it is a "strong oxidizing agent". Rust is a form of oxidation, but things other than iron can be oxidized, with an effect that is just as damaging. Also of note, my text said that with even a reletively small amount of ozone at ground level, the effectiveness of photosynthesis in plants can be cut in half. In all, I would say to enjoy the smell of lightning when it happens, and not try to recreate it in your home, for safety's sake. |
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Re: Fresh Air during a Thunderstorm
From: cpslosk8er-ga on 03 Aug 2004 15:31 PDT |
Markabe, I work for a company that manufactures ozone generators for water and air purification. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the smell in the air during a thunderstorm is, in fact, ozone. Two things in nature produce ozone, lightning and UV rays. UV rays produce it in the upper atmosphere and are responsible for the "ozone layer". Lightning produces it in the lower atmosphere and creates that "fresh air" smell. Ozone is an oxidizer and a poisonous gas, similar to chlorine gas (used in WWI as a chemical weapon). Home ionizers will not reproduce that smell no matter what because they do not produce ozone. There are many ozone generators on the market designed for home air purification. Most of these are dangerous because they sit in one room and can cause a build up of ozone. The FDA regulated maximum for continuous exposure is 0.50 parts per million. Humans can sometimes smell ozone at concentrations of as little as 0.020 ppm. Therefore, if you can smell the ozone, it is close to or above unsafe levels, so most home ozonators are a risky investment. Most home ozone generators do not actually clean the air, they will deodorize but since they do not filter particulates out of the air or sanitize it there are still particles and bacteria/mold in the air. Over exposure to ozone can cause eye, nose, and throat irritation, damage to membranes in the nose, throat, and lungs, and also cancer. If you are interested in an whole home ozone air purifier that does not cause ozone build up and that you will not be able to smell but that will deodorize and sanitize your air, feel free to contact me: mkelley@cwtozone.com or visit our website at www.cwtozone.com. I hope I answered your question thoroughly and given you some options for air purifiers. |
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Re: Fresh Air during a Thunderstorm
From: cpslosk8er-ga on 03 Aug 2004 15:34 PDT |
Markabe, I work for a company that manufactures ozone generators for water and air purification. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the smell in the air during a thunderstorm is, in fact, ozone. Two things in nature produce ozone, lightning and UV rays. UV rays produce it in the upper atmosphere and are responsible for the "ozone layer". Lightning produces it in the lower atmosphere and creates that "fresh air" smell. Ozone is an oxidizer and a poisonous gas, similar to chlorine gas (used in WWI as a chemical weapon). Home ionizers will not reproduce that smell because they produce minute amounts of ozone. There are many ozone generators on the market designed for home air purification. Most of these are dangerous because they sit in one room and can cause a build up of ozone. The FDA regulated maximum for continuous exposure is 0.050 parts per million. Humans can sometimes smell ozone at concentrations of as little as 0.020 ppm. Therefore, if you can smell the ozone, it is close to or above unsafe levels, so most home ozonators are a risky investment. Most home ozone generators do not actually clean the air, they will deodorize but since they do not filter particulates out of the air or sanitize it there are still particles and bacteria/mold in the air. Over exposure to ozone can cause eye, nose, and throat irritation, damage to membranes in the nose, throat, and lungs, and also cancer. If you are interested in an whole home ozone air purifier that does not cause ozone build up and that you will not be able to smell but that will deodorize and sanitize your air, feel free to contact me: mkelley@cwtozone.com or visit our website at www.cwtozone.com. I hope I answered your question thoroughly and given you some options for air purifiers. |
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Re: Fresh Air during a Thunderstorm
From: rschr-ga on 30 Oct 2004 00:11 PDT |
It seems almost all the negative ion generators on the market are not powerful enough to get results. See www.cet.org and click on the "Negative Ion Therapy" Link. CET.org is a non-profit organization connected with the Chronobiology Department of Columbia University. I have no affiliation with them--they are just the most credible source of information that I have found on the web about this subject. |
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Re: Fresh Air during a Thunderstorm
From: sume-ga on 21 Jan 2005 22:15 PST |
ozone is harm full to living organism including human beings.so i recomend not using ozone for that effect.UV rays can convert oxygen to ozone.so using UV lamp can create ozone in room.ozone can kill germs in the air so in some public toilets they ise uv lamp so that the ozone produced will kill germs in the toilet. |
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