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Q: 2 Tibetan Monks in Nazi Germany? As soldiers? ( No Answer,   2 Comments )
Subject: 2 Tibetan Monks in Nazi Germany? As soldiers?
Category: Reference, Education and News
Asked by: dumbo22-ga
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Posted: 28 May 2002 20:35 PDT
Expires: 13 Jun 2002 15:02 PDT
Question ID: 18654
I read in a magazine over a year ago that during WW2, two Tibetan (? 
maybe from Nepal?) buddhist monks who were on a pilgrimage were
captured by the Russians and sent to the Russo-German front as
soldiers.  They were then captured again and sent to a concetration
camp.  They survived -- and perhaps were then put into Nazi uniform
and sent back to the front?  Not sure if there was more to the
adventure or not.  Where can I find thorough information about this
subject?  I do not want and will not pay for basic, general overviews.
 I want the real nitty gritty of what happened, to whom, when, etc. 
As much color and detail as possible.
There is no answer at this time.

The following answer was rejected by the asker (they received a refund for the question).
Subject: Re: 2 Tibetan Monks in Nazi Germany? As soldiers?
Answered By: journalist-ga on 10 Jun 2002 16:55 PDT
Hello.  I believe there is more information in print concerning the
Nazi connection with Tibet than you may find on the Internet.

A man prominent in the German Third Reich, General Karl Haushofer, was
a Nazi who was a Tibetan initiate:

"A frequent visitor to Landsberg Prison where Hitler was writing Mein
Kampf with the help of Rudolf Hess, was General Karl Haushofer, a
university professor and director of the Munich Institute of
Geopolitics. Haushofer, Hitler, and Hess had long conversations
together. Hess also kept records of these conversations. Hitler's
demands for German "Living Space" in the east at the expense of the
Slavic nations were based on the geopolitical theories of the learned
professor. Haushofer was also inclined toward the esoteric. as
military attache in Japan, he had studied Zen-Buddhism. He had also
gone through initiations at the hands of Tibetan Lamas. He became
Hitler's second "esoteric mentor", replacing Dietrich Eckart.

"In Berlin, Haushofer had founded the Luminous Lodge or the Vril
Society. The lodge's objective was to explore the origins of the Aryan
race and to perform exercises in concentration to awaken the forces of
"Vril". Haushofer was a student of the Russian magician and
metaphysician Gregor Ivanovich Gurdyev (George Gurdjieff).

"Both Gurdjeiff and Haushofer maintained that they had contacts with
secret Tibetan Lodges that possessed the secret of the "Superman". The
lodge included Hitler, Alfred Rosenberg, Himmler, Goring, and Hitler's
subsequent personal physician Dr. Morell. It is also known that
Aleister Crowley and Gurdjieff sought contact with Hitler.

"Hitler's unusual powers of suggestion become more understandable if
one keeps in mind that he had access to the "secret" psychological
techniques of the esoteric lodges. Haushofer taught him the techniques
of Gurdjieff which, in turn, were based on the teachings of the Sufis
and the Tibetan Lamas- and familiarized him with the Zen teaching of
the Japanese Society of the Green Dragon.

"From The Unknown Hitler by Wulf Schwartzwaller, Berkeley Books, 1990"

I couldn't fathom Tibetan monks becoming Nazis, so I looked for Nazis
who might have explored the Tibetan path.  The other man you seek (or
men, it may turn out) will probably be found by perusing print volumes
related to the Thule Society and Karl Haushofer.  (I stress again, the
information is probably primary to print volumes concerning Nazis
and/or the occult).

At the same site from which the book quote was taken, I located
information concerning the Thule Society

More information on Hitler and the occult may be found at

To read more about the Luminous Lodge or the Vril Society, visit

I believe by exploring the life of Karl Haushofer, you will discover
the Tibetan connection, and how two or more "monks" could have been
soldiers for the Third Reich.  I hope this is the information for
which you are looking.

Clarification of Answer by journalist-ga on 10 Jun 2002 18:30 PDT
Alas, I was interrupted during the search and hit send by mistake.  My
This episode may also refer to the book Seven Years in Tibet by
Heinrich Harrer, as he was a Nazi who truly embraced the Tibetan path.
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href=""></a>&quot;&gt;<a href=""></a>&lt;/a&gt; 
Also, the book The Black Sun by Peter Moon may prove helpful 
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href=""></a>&quot;&gt;<a href=""></a>&lt;/a&gt; 
Another site on Hitler and Tibet 
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href=""></a>&quot;&gt;<a href=""></a>&lt;/a&gt; 
Executing a search at Google for &amp;quot;find magazine articles&amp;quot;  I located
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href=";amp;key=tibetan+monks+WWII">;amp;key=tibetan+monks+WWII</a>&quot;&gt;<a href=";amp;key=tibetan+monks+WWII">;amp;key=tibetan+monks+WWII</a>&lt;/a&gt;
There were 3,343 articles catalogued relating to &amp;quot;tibetan monks
Germany&amp;quot;  You may be able to find the specific article there.  
Reason this answer was rejected by dumbo22-ga:
The answerer did not answer the question asked.

Subject: Re: 2 Tibetan Monks in Nazi Germany? As soldiers?
From: dharbigt-ga on 28 May 2002 21:31 PDT
Between this one and the lightning guy, I'm about to hire a question
about what it is you're researching!
Subject: Re: 2 Tibetan Monks in Nazi Germany? As soldiers?
From: scriptor-ga on 29 May 2002 09:41 PDT
Dear dumbo22,
I did some research on this question. I knew before that quite a
number of Asians served in the German armed forced during WWII -
Turkmenes, Indians, even some Koreans, to name but a few. Some were
volunteers, some were captured non-Russian soldiers of the Soviet Army
who had been given the choice either to stay in horrible PoW camps or
to join the Wehrmacht, or even the Waffen-SS. They were badly needed
for the garrisions in France when the troops originally stationed
there had to be transferred to the Eastern front, where the losses
were enormous. The Asians (mainly natives of the oriental Soviet
Republics) formed third-class ersatz units.
I found evidence that a certain number of Tibetans, about 1000, have
been in German service in the later years of the war. Alas, their unit
was wiped out completely by Soviet troops during the siege of Berlin
in Spring 1945. So the two Tibetans you metioned did certainly not
belong to them, but it shows that the existance of Tibetans in the
German armed forces as such is a fact. So the story of the two Monks
might have some truth in it.
Indeed I came across two versions of that story, one on this webseite: ,
and the other one here:
Sadly, while the two versions have lots of things in common, they also
differ in some points. And they can not be seen as real evidence,
since no names, dates or military units are mentioned. But it is
interesting that the two Tibetans are not referred to as "Buddhist
Monks". This might indicate that their story has a true core, but has
been "decorated" with varying elements over the years.
In this newsgroup posting, Cornelius Ryan (author of "The Longest
Day") is mentionend as a source for a report on two Tibetans captured
in Normandy. However, I could not find a such passage in his book on
I'm very sorry I can't provide you information of higher quality at
the moment. That's why I have not written an answer, only a comment.
But if these two Tibetans have been captured in Normandy, there is a
good chance they were soldiers of the 716. Infanterie-Divison: This
German unit was both defending the beach against assaulting Americans
and formed by "Russians", e.g. captured Red Army soldiers who have
decided to change sides - since the two Tibetans have been in the
Soviet Army before, they might have been part of the 716. Inf.Div. The
official records of this unit are still available at the Federal
German Archives:
If these Tibetans have been captured by US troops in Normandy, their
names must be registered in the divison's documentation - Germans take
such things very serious.
Well, it is not much, but maybe it helps you.

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