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Subject: Protein powder needed
Category: Health > Fitness and Nutrition
Asked by: donphiltrodt-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 16 Apr 2003 15:59 PDT
Expires: 16 May 2003 15:59 PDT
Question ID: 191447
I consume large amounts of protein in the form of powder (mixed with
various things).  Currently, I purchase 16oz cans of milk and/or egg
protein from Trader Joe's for $8.  I can no longer do this because I'm
overloading my body with too much iron (because the protein powder is
supplemented like a multi-vitamin).

Please find me anywhere between one and five suppliers of protein,
fitting these criteria...

1) Not supplemented with vitamins and minerals
2) Not soy; Milk and/or egg is acceptable 
3) Priced near $8/lb or less (optional)

FYI: In case retailers have minimum order requirements, I can easily
place orders around $250 because I go thru so much of it.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Protein powder needed
Answered By: hummer-ga on 16 Apr 2003 19:36 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hi donphiltrodt,

Well, it has been quite a challenge trying to find protein supplements
which do not contain additional vitamins, minerals and other
ingredients, but following is my "best buy" of a product which I
believe meets all of your requirements (#1). Not only does Global
Netrition offer discounts for bulk orders, their website seems more
professional than many that I visited, with full contact info, product
details, guarantee, secure ordering and privacy statement.

1. GLOBAL NETRITION: 
EAS SimplyProtein Complete Whey: 5 lbs $29.99: Protein 21g per
serving:
Ingredients: Protein Blend (Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Protein
Isolate), Natural and Artificial Flavors, Lecithin, and Acesulfame
Potassium.
"There are various types of protein sources available to you. Protein
powders are popping up everywhere, but what's really in these
products? Most of them contain whey protein, but some incorporate
fillers like maltodextrin, which adds carbs, and other protein sources
like calcium caseinate or milk protein isolate, Although these other
protein sources are high quality, they do not offer the same benefits
unique to whey protein. That is why EAS has developed SimplyProtein
Complete Whey, an economical, high-quality, protein powder made with
100% whey protein."
Global Netrition Special Offers:
Free Shipping for orders over $100: Coupon name: FREESHIP
Or, Save 5% on all orders over $200: Coupon name: SAVE5
http://www.bodybuilding-supplements-for-you.com/eas/simply-protein.htm

2. Another possibility at GLOBAL NETRITION: 
ProLab Pure Whey Powder 5 pounds $29.95 Proteins (g) 22
Ingredient Details:
Protein Blend [whey protein concentrate, whey protein isolate
(includes all protein fractions), glutamine peptides], taurine,
maltodextrin, natural & artificial flavors, lecithin, acesulfame
potassium, stevia.
http://store.yahoo.com/globalnetrition/pl-022.html

Here are some more but the list of ingredients get longer:

3. Champion Nutrition Pure Whey Protein Stack 5lb: $29.95: Protein 26g
per serving
Ingredients:
Micro-filtered and ion-exchange whey protein concentrate and isolate,
whey peptides, glycine, natural and artificial flavoring,
acesulfame-K.
http://www.bodyworks-nutrition.com/bodyworks-nutrition/purwheystac5.html

4. Designer Protein: 2lbs: $24.99: free shipping over $100: Protein
18.5g per serving
Ingredients: APT-Full Spectrum Whey Peptides,[modified molecular
weight and partially pre-digested (hydrolyzed) Whey Protein
Concentrate (inc-14% glycomacropeptides {MW- 6,7000 D}, Whey Glutamine
Peptides, Glutasynth, Natural Vanilla Flavor WONF, Lecithin, Citric
Acid, ZMAX, Cellulose Gum, Xanthan Gum, Sodium Alginate, Sodium
Chloride, Stevia, Annatto, Natural Vitamin E, Lactoperoxidase.
http://store.yahoo.com/ihealthtree/desprot2ldif.html

5. 100% Whey Protein: 25 lbs $149.95: Protein: 22g per serving: 
Free shipping till April 18th: coupon code: free
Ingredients: QuadPlex Protein Blend (Ultrafiltered Whey Protein
Concentrate, Cross Flow Microfiltration Whey Protein Isolate, Ion
Exchange Whey Protein Isolate [All Three Sources Contain
Concentrations of ?Lactoglobulin, alpha-Lactalbumen, Bovine Serum
Albumen, Immunoglbulins, Glycomacropeptides, Lactoferrin,
Lactoperoxidase, Glycomacropeptides, Lactoferrin, Lactoperoxidase,
other closely related Protein Molecules and Glutamine Peptides], Low
Molecular Weight and Partially Hydrolyzed Whey Peptides), Artificial
Flavor, Acesulfame Potassium, FD and C Red #40.
http://www.musclesurf.com/100wheyprot2.html


Additional Link:

Protein Finder:
"Use Our Protein Search Utility To Find
The Protein You Need In Only A Few Seconds!"
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/proteinfinder.htm

I hope this helps. If you have any questions or if this hasn't
satisfied your request, please post a clarification request before
rating my answer.

Thank you, 
hummer

Terms Used:
"protein supplement"
"no soy"
"protein powder"
whey

Request for Answer Clarification by donphiltrodt-ga on 16 Apr 2003 20:14 PDT
Excellent work.

I'm very surprised that egg protein didn't appear at all in your
answer.  (I did say "and/or", so it's not a problem.)  I guess I'm
wondering if you intentionally avoided egg protein because of
something you learned while researching?  Just checking.

Clarification of Answer by hummer-ga on 17 Apr 2003 08:53 PDT
Hi donphiltrodt,

The short answer to your answer clarification request is "cost". Your
original question indicated you were concerned with the vitamin
content of the product and the cost, so that is how I conducted my
research. I soon learned that egg protein supplements cost more than
whey protein (in some cases twice as much) and so whey is the path I
took. In fact, I did search for an unbiased online explanation of
protein supplements but it alluded me. However, this morning I found
an excellent description of the different types of supplements and how
they work.

Protein Propaganda: Deciphering Fact from Fiction
http://www.spinellinutrition.com/Protein_Propaganda.html 

As you will see, there is alot to think about while choosing a protein
supplement and it all depends on your personal physical make-up, your
goals, protein quality and your ability to pay. As with most things,
"most expensive" doesn't necessarily mean "best" and it will be up to
you to determine exactly what fits into your overall plan/budget.

I wish I had found the above site while I was researching your
question, as it includes a handy formula for figuring out the
percentage of protein per serving: "divide the protein found in each
serving by the serving size and multiply by 100". Consequently, I've
done the math (see below) for the five products I sent you earlier.

Another whey product at Global Netrition:
100 Whey Protein: 10 lbs $59.95  Proteins (g) 22 per serving 
22 g of protein per serving ÷ 28.4 g serving size x 100 = 77.5%
protein.
(160) = .38 per (- discount) per serving.
Ingredients
QuadPlex Protein Blend (Ultrafiltered Whey Protein Concentrate, Cross
Flow Microfiltration Whey Protein Isolate, Ion Exchange Whey Protein
Isolate [all three sources contain concentrations of b-lactoglobulin,
a-lactalbumen, bovine serum albumen, immunoglobulins,
glycomacropeptides, lactoferrin, lactoperoxidase, other closely
related protein molecules and glutamine peptides], Low Molecular
Weight and Partially Hydrolyzed Whey Peptides), Cocoa, Artificial
Flavor, Acesulfame Potassium.
http://www.bodybuilding-supplements-for-you.com/optimum-nutrition/100-whey-protein-10lb.htm

EGG PROTEIN:

1. Universal Nutrition Egg Protein: 2lbs $24.95  Proteins (g): 20 per
serving
22 g of protein per serving ÷ 28.4 g serving size x 100 = 77.5%
protein.
(30) = .83 per serving (- discount) per serving.
Ingredients: Dried egg white albumin, dextrose, bromelain, papain,
vanilla flavoring.
http://www.bodybuilding-supplements-for-you.com/universal-nutrition/egg-protein.htm

2. Egg Pro Ultra (vanilla) 2lb $22.95 Protein – 22g per serving
22 g of protein per serving ÷ 28.35 g serving size x 100 = 77.6%
protein.
(32) = .72 per serving (- discount) per serving.
http://www.fitnessfirstusa.com/details.asp?item=6906

The cost per serving of the five supplements listed in my answer,
including the percentage of protein:

#1
21 g of protein per serving ÷ 28 g serving size x 100 = 75% protein.
(80) servings = $.38 (- discount) per serving.
#2
22 g of protein per serving ÷ 32 g serving size x 100 = 68.75%
protein.
(71) servings = $.42 (- discount) per serving.
#3
26 g of protein per serving ÷ 32 g serving size x 100 = 81.25%
protein.
(57) servings = $.53 per serving.
#4
18.5 g of protein per serving ÷ 24 g serving size x 100 = 77.08%
protein.
(40) servings = $.63 per serving.
#5
22 g of protein per serving ÷ 28 g serving size x 100 = 78.57%
protein.
(80) servings = $.39 per serving.

So there you have it - as with most subjects, this one is a bit more
complicated than first meets the eye. I hope I have been able to make
things clearer for you  rather than muddy the waters. I think the
first step for you is to learn about the various types of protein and
decide which one suits your needs the best. Once you have decided
which one you want to consume, you will be able to do a product search
on Google and Froogle to search for the best buy. Perhaps you will be
able to strike a deal with your local pharmacy and thus save on
postage.

Please get back in touch if you need further clarification. I haven't
read the following guide (pdf docs take forever to load on my
computer), but perhaps it will be helpful:
Protein: Muscle Building Blocks
http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/ebooks/suppchps/suppch2.pdf

Sincerely,
hummer
donphiltrodt-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $4.00
I can't think of how this answer could be improved, so 5 stars! 
Excellent subject coverage and succinct analyis. Very thorough and
clear.  Thank you.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Protein powder needed
From: hummer-ga on 18 Apr 2003 19:19 PDT
 
Dear donphiltrodt,

Thank you very much for your kind words, fine rating and tip, all are
appreciated. I'm glad to hear that we were on the same wavelength  - 
and I hope you send me an update after you decide which one to
purchase!

Take care,
hummer

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