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friend of Tina
Category: Relationships and Society > Cultures Asked by: badabing-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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13 May 2003 09:45 PDT
Expires: 12 Jun 2003 09:45 PDT Question ID: 203178 |
hola munchkins! anyone know with any certainty how this phrase got started? I heard it on last night's CSI episode in reference to a meth user. I found just this one reference on Google: http://www.smokedot.org/comments/2002/12/20/163454/32/28 is it a goof on the DEA's acronym FOT (field observation training) or is named after Tina Turner's frenzied rendition of "Proud Mary?" speculation welcome but not as an answer. much love, granny | |
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Re: friend of Tina
Answered By: pinkfreud-ga on 13 May 2003 12:01 PDT Rated: |
Howdy, Granny! According to The Vaults of Erowid (which I have found to be an excellent online source of information about recreational drugs), the drug-related usage of "Tina" comes from "Christina," which is apparently wordplay on "crystal," as in "crystal meth." The Office of National Drug Control Policy concurs, adding that the term sometimes refers to methamphetamine in combination with Viagra: ===================================================================== Chris: Methamphetamine The "Chris" series of nicknames comes from "Christina", derived from "crystal". Tina: Methamphetamine, "Tina" derived from "Christina", from "crystal". The Vaults of Erowid: Drug Slang http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/slang/slang10.shtml ===================================================================== Christina: Amphetamine Tina: Methamphetamine; crystal methamphetamine; methamphetamine used with Viagra Office of National Drug Control Policy http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/streetterms/ByType.asp?intTypeID=24 ===================================================================== Finally, we bring you a terribly au courant pharmaceutical diva update: Woozy insiders tell me that the current reigning trilogy of club drugs consists of "tina, eena, and gina" -- i.e., crystal meth, Ecstasy, and GBH. Village Voice http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0303/musto.php ===================================================================== Here are three references that suggest that the slang term "Tina" had its origins in the gay community: Some know it as crystal. Others refer to it as Tina, a campy abbreviation of its other name, Christina. But among the habitués of New York's frenetic gay club scene, the extraordinarily powerful stimulant commonly known as crystal meth is earning a new nickname: the Evil One. Le National http://www.le-national.com/Worldnat/tina022002.html In speaking, some people say crystal meth, crystal or even, as we named our icon, Crissy. It's also known as Tina, which my gay sources say is a camp reference to ChrisTINA Crawford, daughter of Joan and author of "Mommy Dearest." That one's still somewhat debateable, I think! Tweaker http://www.tweaker.org/tweaker_arc/qa3.html Meth is speed which can keep you dancing for hours, feeling energetic, powerful, and sexual all at the same time. But meth is not just a drug used at these venues. Studies indicate use is as common in people's homes, at the homes of friends, at sex parties, bars, and bathhouses. And users of crystal tend to associate with other users thus creating an "underground network." "Where's Tina?" or "where did Tina go?" can be commonly heard among users at a club who are in search of the substance. The Body: An AIDS and HIV Information Resource http://www.thebody.com/bp/sept02/meth.html ===================================================================== I have not been able to find "FOT" as a common usage. If we accept "Tina" as having originated in gay clubs, I think we can postulate that "friend of Tina" is a similar construction to "friend of Dorothy," a venerable item of gay slang which predates the Clinton-era "Friend of Bill": "Friend of Dorothy" - This was a code phrase used to identify other gay and lesbian people in the mid-twentieth century, as in "Are you a friend of Dorothy?" The phrase refers to Judy Garland's character Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz. Both Garland, and the movie were popular in gay culture. MatrixWerx http://members.aol.com/matrixwerx/glbthistory/symbols.htm People no longer need to be secretive about being gay... You don't have to introduce yourself as a "Friend of Dorothy" to come out to someone. Rainbow Arch http://rainbowarch.com/columnists/tonybossaller/roomatthetop.html friend of Dorothy: noun. A euphemism for a homosexual. for gay icon Judy Garland, in the film The Wizard of Oz. During the 1950s and 1960s drag queen, the Judy Garland imitator, with the singing of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow". Judy Garland was the most beloved icon of the gay culture of the time. It was uncannily symbolic that the Friday night of June 17, 1969 was the birth of the Gay and Lesbian leberation movement, with the Stonewall riots began, was also the day of the funeral of Judy Garland. Wizard's Gay Slang Dictionary http://www.hurricane.net/~wizard/19f.html In the early days of Gay-dom they used several clandestine clues to tell others that you were one of them. One of the best known was, "Are you a friend of Dorothy?" Well, this younger group really doesn't have a close association to Judy Garland. But there are other pop divas to consider. We decided on something that made us all smile. If you would like to become a part of this new group you can email us at FOBSeattle@hotmail.com. FOB? Friends Of Britney. I know, not everyone loves Britney - but it is recognizable. Don't be afraid. To quote Glinda the Good Witch, "Come out, come out where ever you are." Seattle Gay news Online http://www.sgn.org/2002/02/15/yo.htm Here's an excerpt from an online gay personal ad: What I'm NOT looking for: a guy who's chem friendly; iso 420; friend of Tina; or think that E, T or X are more than letters of the alphabet. If none of this makes sense to you then just ask, please. (Sorry, cannot link to this one, since the site has nude photos.) ===================================================================== Search terms used: "tina" + "meth" "tina" + "methamphetamine" "tina" + "amphetamine" "tina" + "crystal" "tina" + "crank" "friend of tina" "fot" "friend of dorothy" ===================================================================== Thanks for asking another fascinating question. Hope this gets you "up to speed" (sorry, but I am one who cannot resist a bad pun!) Best, Pink |
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you've outdone yourself, Pinkie! very interesting reading and I'm ahead of the game now knowing what eena and gina are. I was hoping for more sources like the whitehousedrug policy but maybe they don't care how the label originated but only the various names and combinations of meth. your extrapolation from the gay drug culture seems entirely reasonable. I must've had a mind meld on a wizard of oz connection when I addressed the question to the munchkins. thanks for all your hard work and for everyone's juicy comments. denco, granny loved reading your alternate view of TINA. |
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Re: friend of Tina
From: jem-ga on 13 May 2003 12:10 PDT |
Wow Pink!! Amazing answer!! I wondered about that reference myself, having heard it elsewhere. Am watching CSI tonight (not sure how far behind in episodes we are here in the UK) and found this extra bit of trivia when looking up one of the various episode guides: "William Petersen, star and co-executive producer of the highly rated and critically acclaimed CBS drama, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, will appear at Pathology Today®: The ASCP Annual Meeting in New Orleans, La., this September to accept the ASCP Special Recognition Award." http://www.pathologytoday.org/events/csi.asp Pretty telling sign of how much television influences culture when the American Society of Clinical Pathology is granting special recognition to an actor who portrays a forensic investigator. Talk about viewer ratings! :) See also: http://judiciary.senate.gov/oldsite/te051501wp.htm where William Peterson testified before the US Senate Judiciary Committee re: funding of crime labs, case backlogs, etc. :) jem |
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Re: friend of Tina
From: denco-ga on 13 May 2003 12:30 PDT |
Howdy Granny! A side trip (which has nothing to do with the FOT) for you in the world of TINA. Welcome to SOLIDARITY, a revolutionary, socialist, democratic, feminist, anti-racist organization. http://solidarity.igc.org/atc/82Farber.html "The discussion of France focuses on the 1995 winter of discontent, the strikes and mass demonstrations against the attacks on the social services that showed the reality and potential for a fight back in Western Europe. Singer saw the French events as an ideological turning point, the first revolt against the notion that "there is no alternative" to the market, also known as TINA." The Capital Ownership Group VIRTUAL THINK TANK http://cog.kent.edu/CogStrategyConf6-8May2001/TINA.htm "The political apparatus at national and intergovernmental levels reiterates the same message: There Is No Alternative what has come to be known as the T-I-N-A response." Search Strategy: Google search on keywords: TINA political organization ://www.google.com/search?q=TINA+political+organization Looking Forward, denco-ga |
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Re: friend of Tina
From: jem-ga on 14 May 2003 09:42 PDT |
Also, from last night's episode as aired in the UK, a new acronym - "DUNS": Dead Upstairs Neighbour Syndrome....very good makeup effects for that particular scene..... Quite a few acronyms used in last night's episode but as it revolved around Lady Heather's House of Pain, perhaps not suitable for daytime reading! :) :) jem-ga |
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Re: friend of Tina
From: badabing-ga on 14 May 2003 10:09 PDT |
so sorry, jem. granny meant CSI: Miami. do you get that too? those two shows are always full of strange acronyms. I'm savoring reading all these links you guys supplied until this weekend. all of them look so interesting. thanks all! |
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Re: friend of Tina
From: jem-ga on 14 May 2003 10:51 PDT |
Hiya granny! Yes, we do get CSI: Miami as well although I marginally prefer CSI as I think the scripting is much tighter. What I do like about CSI Miami though is that they always have a parallel case running which turns out to be death by accidental causes of the most freakish kind. For example, there was one episode where some chap got toasted from the inside out - turns out he was siphoning gas via the old "suck gas into the hose" method, hence loads of gas vapours lurking in his oesophagus and stomach, pressed the button to answer his mobile phone, static electricity charge and, well, KABOOM! Have fun with your weekend reading :) :) jem-ga |
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Re: friend of Tina
From: badabing-ga on 17 May 2003 07:58 PDT |
howdy jem, I agree with you, the original is better. not a big David Caruso fan but I like Khandi Alexander and the loving care she takes with the bodies. I do remember that interesting episode but granny's usually working and can't really follow much of a plot line. usually only a new phrase or piece of music is the only thing that registers. and here's to Grissom's surgery going well. granny was hoping for a pan down to a butt shot in his hospital gown. {sigh} oh well. |
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Re: friend of Tina
From: pinkfreud-ga on 17 May 2003 09:51 PDT |
Wow, thanks for the five stars and the tip! ~pinkfreud, FOG (Friend of Granny) |
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