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Subject: Are mushrooms kosher?
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: gentile-ga
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Posted: 18 May 2003 08:01 PDT
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Question ID: 205403
Are mushrooms kosher?  If not all, which ones are?
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Subject: Re: Are mushrooms kosher?
Answered By: tehuti-ga on 20 May 2003 11:43 PDT
 
Hello gentile,

The quick answer is yes, mushrooms are in principle kosher.  

There is actually a whole essay on the subject, which does mention
some subtle points and problems that need to be taken into
consideration:

"A FUNGIBLE FEAST, MUSHROOMS IN HALACHA" by: Rabbi Zushe Blech
originally published in the MK Vaad News & Views, April, May, 2002,
and reproduced at
http://www.kashrut.com/articles/mushroom/  
Kashrut.com calls itself "the Premier Kosher Information Source on the
Internet" and has a fund of recipes, information, discussions, product
announcements etc etc.

Obviously I cannot reproduce the whole essay here, because it is
copyright.  However, here are some of the  points it makes:

"these overgrown [Portobello] mushrooms were considered a troublesome
waste until someone realized that they served as an excellent meat
substitute. This use for mushrooms, however, was actually presaged in
the Medrash Alpha Beisa, which notes that Hashem has provided Kosher
alternatives for non-Kosher foods: “I have prohibited Neveilos and
Treifos (carrion and diseased animals), but I have permitted Kemeihin
and Pitrios (mushrooms)."

"The use of wild mushrooms as food, however, is quite ancient and
poses no inherent Kashrus concern for either year round use or for
Pesach. "  [Pesach is Passover.]

With respect to cultivated mushrooms, irrespective of what is used to
produce the compost in which they grow, "The composting process
ensures that these materials are hygienic and safe, and since all of
this material is – by definition – decomposed, it poses no Kashrus
concerns."

However, then there is a question about mushroom spawn sometimes being
grown on damp rye. This "would most certainly pose a concern of
Chometz, and some have therefore cautioned against using such
mushrooms on Pesach. On the other hand, most authorities do not
consider this to be a problem."  Detailed reasons are given by the
author why it is not considered a problem.

[I found a definition of Chometz on another site: "Throughout the
eight days of Pesach it is forbidden to eat chometz. Chometz results
when one of the five essential grains (wheat, rye, barley, oats, and
spelt) or a derivative of it, is allowed to remain undisturbed in
contact with water for eighteen minutes." The web itself does not seem
to be available any more, but the page is present in Google's cache:
http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:3KGoOI8MLtoJ:www.rainmall.com/pesach/prohibition.html
]

There is a potential problem of insect infestation, which would be a
problem regarding kosher acceptability. However, this is not
considered to be a problem in N. America.  The author does mention
that canned Chinese mushrooms were found to be infested, so it is
necessary to check that no infestation is present.

There is also an issue which depends on the custom of a country as to
whether mushrooms are ever eaten raw or only cooked.  "When certain
foods are cooked, Halacha requires that a Jew be involved in the
cooking, a rule called Bishul Akum. Only foods that are not eaten raw
are subject to this requirement, and the status of mushrooms remains
the subject of discussion in this regard"   In Israel, there is no
habit of eating raw mushrooms, they are always cooked.  Therefore,
most  kosher Jews in Israel "require that canned mushrooms be Bishul
Yisroel (cooked by a Jew)."  However, since mushrooms are also used as
a raw food in N. America, for example in salads,  most kosher Jews in
N. America will eat canned mushrooms without Bishul Yisroel.

With respect to Quorn: "As opposed to mushrooms, however, this fungus
is grown in large fermentation vessels, and its Kosher status will
depend on the nutrients that are used in the fermentor, as well as the
other ingredients that are part of the final product. "

Search strategies: 1. mushrooms kosher  2. Chometz
Comments  
Subject: Re: Are mushrooms kosher?
From: pugwashjw-ga on 30 May 2003 10:32 PDT
 
Even though the jewish faith believes only in the old testament, have
a look at the Bible at Matthew 15; 17 -20. "are you not aware that
everything entering into the mouth passes along into the intestines
and is discharged into the sewer. 18. However, the things proceeding
out of the mouth come out of the heart, and those things defile a man.
19. For example, out of the heart comes wicked reasonings, murders,
adulteries, fornications,, thieveries, false testimonies, blasphemies.
20. These are the things defiling a man; but to take a meal with
unwashed hands does not defile a man." This last refers to a mans
spiritual standing with God, and not a purely worldly health issue. So
does it really matter if mushrooms are "Kosher" or not???
Subject: Re: Are mushrooms kosher?
From: samthe1man-ga on 10 Jan 2004 16:12 PST
 
yes they care b/c the new testament means absolutely nothing to
them.Its exactly like citing the Koran
Subject: Re: Are mushrooms kosher?
From: fireangel-ga on 07 Apr 2004 09:09 PDT
 
pugwasjw - I am sorry youfind his question stupid.
 I dont think we should judge peoples questions, "there is nosuch
thing as a stupid question. People are paying good money for these
questions I dont see why you are attacking the Questioner and the
Answerer. Maybe this was asked out of curiosity maybe he was having
jewish friends over.

Mushrooms year round do not have to be checked neerly as throughly as
broccoli or asparagus which according to some opinions must be washed
in vinegar and then water to insure that any bugs on the vegatble are
washed away.(bythe way this is as good a treatment for lice as any
dangerous chemicals on the market). On passover however as mentioned
there were issues with mushrooms still having chametz on them. If the
mushrooms are bought and washed before Pesach then there is no opinion
that would say that the mushrooms can not be used on peasach(using the
halachic princple of Batel Ba'shisim[nulification by sixty-iths]).
This is relavent as it is now the third day of passover which is a
holiday where work and useof electrictyis allowed.

Chag Ha'Peasach kasher V'samech - Have a good and fufilling Passover

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