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Age old ketchup question
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: smutzer-ga List Price: $7.00 |
Posted:
14 Jun 2003 07:15 PDT
Expires: 14 Jul 2003 07:15 PDT Question ID: 217234 |
I know this is an old silly quesion but I am really curious. What is the difference between "fancy ketchup" and "ketchup or tomato ketchup"? |
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Re: Age old ketchup question
Answered By: missy-ga on 14 Jun 2003 10:00 PDT Rated: |
Hi Smutzer! There really isn't one! Consider the ingredient list for Heinz 57 Tomato Ketchup (from the label on the bottle in my fridge): "Tomato concentrate made from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, salt, spice, onion powder, natural flavorings." Now consider the ingredient list from the following "fancy" and "tomato" variants of ketchup: McDonald's Fancy Ketchup: "Tomato concentrate made from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, water, salt, natural flavorings." McDonald's Fancy Ketchup http://www.clearfour.com/condiment/mcd_ketchup_new.jpg Hunt's Fancy Ketchup: "Concentrated tomato puree, high fructose corn syrup, distilled vinegar, corn syrup, salt, onion powder, garlic powder, natural flavorings" Hunt's Fancy Ketchup http://www.clearfour.com/condiment/hunts_tomatoes.jpg Baker's Drive Thru Ketchup: "Tomato puree, corn sweeteners, distilled vinegar, salt, spices and onion powder" Baker's Ketchup http://www.clearfour.com/condiment/bakersketchup.jpg Portion Pac Fancy Ketchup (we used to get this in the school cafeteria!): "Tomato paste, corn syrup, distilled vinegar,sugar, salt, onion, garlic and natural flavorings." PPI Fancy Ketchup http://www.clearfour.com/condiment/ppi_fancyketchup.jpg Although the formulations vary slightly in proportion and addition of certain spices, all ketchup is essentially the same. The California Fruit Packing Company defines Fancy Ketchup as "Ketchup, Catsup" and states: "Fancy Ketchup is produced from mature, whole, red, vine-ripened tomatoes, which are sorted, crushed, screened, and concentrated. Corn Syrup, vinegar, salt and seasonings are added." CALIFORNIA FRUIT PACKING CO. #10 CANNED PRODUCT SPECIFICATION http://www.morningstarco.com/products/f_ketchup_33.htm The Ketchup FAQ declares: "Q: What's the difference between Ketchup and Catsup? And what is Fancy Ketchup? A: Well, this one is up for debate. As far as I am concerned they are the same thing." The Ketchup FAQ http://www.ketchup.wonderland.org/faq.html Says one wag: "FANCY KETCHUP. I saw this on a packet of ketchup. I mean, it's [expletive elided] ketchup. How [expletive elided] fancy could it possibly get? Especially when it comes out of a packet." Suspicious Words and Phrases http://mattferrara.diaryland.com/030226_2.html It would appear that the use of "Fancy", as with many other packaging notations, is merely a marketing ploy to try to convince the consumer that one brand of seasoned tomato glop is better than another. For more ketchup facts and trivia: Planet Ketchup http://www.ketchup.wonderland.org/ The Condiment Packet Museum http://www.clearfour.com/condiment/ketchup1.html Ketchup http://www.foodreference.com/html/fketchup.html The origin of "ketchup"? http://www.foodvenue.com/content/tips/T010001_Ketchup.asp Ketchup World http://www.ketchupworld.com/ Hope this helps! --Missy Search terms: [ "fancy ketchup" ], [ "ketchup facts" ] |
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The research put to this question was far above what I expected for the price I listed. I am however only giving 4 stars as I reserve the right to pout. Whereas the answer was undoubtedly correct, I was hoping for some frighteningly enlightening response that would shake the fiber of my existence and potentially lead me to the meaning of all things. Thanks nonetheless...and GREAT JOB! |
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Re: Age old ketchup question
From: respree-ga on 14 Jun 2003 10:30 PDT |
This is just a wild guess, but I would say "marketing?" Don't be surprised when you see "Super Duper, New and Improved, 'Extra' Fancy Ketchup!" =) |
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Re: Age old ketchup question
From: jumpingjoe-ga on 14 Jun 2003 19:11 PDT |
The marketing of it isn't the end of the story. Here's a comparison: Missy's US Heinz Ketchup "Tomato concentrate made from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, salt, spice, onion powder, natural flavorings." Joe's UK Heinz Ketchup "Tomatoes (126g per 100g Ketchup), Spirit Vinegar, Glucose Syrup, Sugar, Salt, Spice and Herb Extracts, Spice, Garlic Powder" Americans get onions, whereas we get garlic. There's something going on here, and I think the public deserve an answer. |
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Re: Age old ketchup question
From: missy-ga on 14 Jun 2003 22:31 PDT |
At risk of being branded a heretic, I prefer the curry ketchup I was able to get at the Boulettentrude in Germany. --Missy |
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Re: Age old ketchup question
From: pinkfreud-ga on 14 Jun 2003 23:38 PDT |
I like nothing better than my homemade cranberry ketchup. Old Oklahoma recipe. And it is so good that you can eat it all by itself. Oklahoma Cranberry Ketchup 4 cups cranberries 2 large yellow onions, chopped 1/2 cup cheap white wine 1 cup V-8 Juice 3 cups sugar 1 cup cider vinegar 1 tablespoon ground cinnamon 1 tablespoon allspice 1/2 teaspoon ground cloves 1/2 teaspoon garlic powder 1 tablespoon powdered celery seed 1 1/2 teaspoons black pepper 1 teaspoon salt Boil cranberries and minced onions together with wine and V-8 Juice until the berries pop. Allow mixture to cool slightly, then transfer to blender or food processor and puree. Return the puree to saucepan and stir in remaining ingredients. Simmer over low heat for about an hour until thickened, stirring occasionally. Store in glass jars or bottles. Keeps for a long time in the fridge, or practically forever in the freezer. |
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Re: Age old ketchup question
From: pinkfreud-ga on 15 Jun 2003 09:00 PDT |
Left a couple things out of that recipe. Forgot to mention stirring in the spices (which is best done after the pureeing.) Also forgot to mention that it's tasty to use brown sugar instead of white. There's only one problem with cranberry ketchup. It makes ya forgetful. ;-) |
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Re: Age old ketchup question
From: magnesium-ga on 16 Jun 2003 14:50 PDT |
A very informative and well presented answer. Too bad the questioner decided to play games with the rating. I would have given this five stars without hesitation. |
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