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Astrology: Transit of planet saturn over midheaven
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: tvr-ga List Price: $9.00 |
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22 Jun 2003 12:14 PDT
Expires: 22 Jul 2003 12:14 PDT Question ID: 220419 |
Hello! 'Midheaven' is apparently the most sensitive point in a person's horoscope. Just wanted to find out if there is documented information about what happens when planet saturn comes directly over midheaven (also written as mid-heaven or M.C.). I'm basically looking for some documented 'good events' and also 'not so good' events when this happenned. The transit of saturn over midheaven may also be called 'saturn conjunct midheaven'. I have already taken a look at the following link: http://www.north-node.com/nodeorama/viewthread.php?tid=193 Further, are the results of this conjunction of saturn and midheaven immediate or is there a time lag? Thanks. |
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Re: Astrology: Transit of planet saturn over midheaven
From: tehuti-ga on 22 Jun 2003 13:21 PDT |
Hello tvr-ga I'm afraid I cant really help you with documented examples. The Midheaven, and indeed the 10th house, of which it forms the cusp, denotes our status in this world, where we stand in society, our career, and related issues. The 10th house is also associated with one of our parents. Traditionally, the association has been with the father, but people such as Howard Sasportas and Liz Greene have argued that it should represent the influences of the mother, or the more visible parent in a childs upbringing, namely, the parent who most contributes to our socialization. I have found a lot of success in assigning the 10th house to the mother rather than the father when interpreting charts. Saturn represents discipline, stability and responsibility, but also restriction and our fears, and, in many representations it also bears some relationship to the mother (the parent who contributes most to day-to-day discipline). Very traditional astrology saw Saturn as a malefic planet, having only a negative influence. More modern interpretations do not look at Saturn in this way. There are times when it is necessary to be disciplined and to say no, and Saturn gives us the strength to do this. Saturn, when conjunct the MC, is about the enter the 10th house. It affects all the areas ruled by that house. For example, it could cause someone who has been fairly laid back so far to really concentrate on career matters in a very disciplined fashion, to get real about what is and what is not possible. Alternatively, it could mean the person getting a lot more responsibility, perhaps through promotion at work or by election to a political or other office. On the other hand, it might engender a sense of helplessness and imprisonment, or perhaps even stop a career move from taking place, by saying no or setting off fears that might not have any foundation. Finally, Saturn in this position could set off a lot of mother stuff. The effects of a Saturn transit will depend very much on the characteristics of the chart that is being affected, namely the planets that will be set off by this transit. It could result in a period of determination, or one of depression and fear. As for duration, Ebertin suggests 1-2 weeks. However, Saturn is a fairly heavy planet. I would expect to see a build up to the exact transit for several months, and once it enters the 10th house it will take about 2.5 years to come out at the other end. |
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Re: Astrology: Transit of planet saturn over midheaven
From: skt1479-ga on 24 Jun 2003 15:54 PDT |
Dear TVR-ga: Take a look at this link: http://www.arlenekramer.com/astrology37.asp "Saturn conjunct the Midheaven is said to bring us that which we deserve, that which we have earned, and sometimes it brings separation and depression. My personal observation is that Saturn works late" Hope this helps. |
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Re: Astrology: Transit of planet saturn over midheaven
From: skt1479-ga on 17 Jul 2003 16:39 PDT |
Hello! Here is one more link: http://www.astrologysoftware.com/resources/articles/conjunct.asp?orig= Midheaven/Saturn There will be far less movement with this conjunction, as it is less about awareness of change and more about the limitations we find in the physical environment. there is a focus on the structure of one's own personality rather than on things outside the self. There is a tendency to be self critical, sometimes leading to an actual loss of ego consciousness. Once again, the need for sufficient practice in thinking is apparent; clear thought processes win negate the tendency toward depression and mental disorder. Change may be inhibited, self examination and learning from experience will emerge. Hope this helps. |
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