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Subject:
Physics --- Rapidly Moving a Volume of Air
Category: Family and Home > Home Asked by: nronronronro-ga List Price: $3.00 |
Posted:
14 Sep 2003 15:51 PDT
Expires: 14 Oct 2003 15:51 PDT Question ID: 255822 |
Hi There ! Do you have a crackpot uncle with wild schemes that only work occasionally? That's me! I would like to devise a system using high-velocity fans to rapidly evacuate warm air (and replace it with cool air from outside) in my house in the evening. Please assume the following: 3000 square foot house 12 foot ceilings House on one level 64 degrees outside at 8 PM 80 degrees inside at 8 PM My goal is to reduce the temperature to 70 degrees inside as quickly as possible. Seems to me there are 3 ways to do this: 1. Set a number of minutes to accomplish the temperature change, and then buy a big enough fan to accomplish the goal 2. Set a number of minutes to accomplish the temperature change, and then buy enough individual fans (rated 20,000 CFM) to accomplish the goal 3. Buy two fans at 20,000 CFM (one fan pumping air in and one fan pumping air out), and simply accept the number of minutes required to accomplish the goal This is not a mathematical question. I never was much good at, "One train leaves Pittsburgh traveling west at 50 miles per hour..." Rather, this is a conceptual question. A 5-star answer would be 1-2 paragraphs on how to rapidly evacuate a space----replacing "stale" air with "fresh" air. I would also be fascinated to know if such "rapid air exchange" is successfully used in home or industry elsewhere in the world, but this is not required to answer the question. All comments greatly appreciated ! Thanks. Uncle Ron |
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Re: Physics --- Rapidly Moving a Volume of Air
Answered By: hedgie-ga on 14 Sep 2003 17:08 PDT Rated: |
The rate of exhaust of the fans operating in parallel are additive ventilation FAQ http://www.aivc.org/Faq/faq.html I would be disappointed if my 'mad uncle' would just install some fans, without considering integrated HVAC, computer controlled system ... with " Dataloggers, kilowatt-hour meters and a water meter (not shown) monitoring system performance..." Here, such ideal mad uncle is picuted with his system: http://oikos.com/esb/41/eahpstudy.html "..operating a fan or blower at full speed continuously, or cycling it on and off, is a sub optimal solution in most cooling and ventilating applications ..." http://www.controlres.com/adaptive_cooling.htm In the present study on zone cooling system in greenhouse, influence of air temperature inside cooled space, ventilation rate and shading on cooling load and CO2 concentration was analyzed experimentally : http://www.actahort.org/books/440/440_43.htm http://students.washington.edu/dclang/temp.html A well-constructed environment accommodates a broad range of human comfort with heating, ventilating and cooling (HVAC) systems I would expect him to consider heat pump for cooling/heating too: http://www.heatpumpcentre.org/activity/hpc_dist.htm http://www.aivc.org/Publications/Biblipgraphy/BIB05.htm or more information on residential commissioning contact (e.g.) http://epb1.lbl.gov/commissioning/perform.html SEARCH TERMS ventilation temperature cooling ventilation temperature cooling heat pump ventilation cooling | |
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Thanks, hedgie! I especially enjoyed the Greenhouse study from Japan. Great job! Uncle Ron |
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Subject:
Re: Physics --- Rapidly Moving a Volume of Air
From: snsh-ga on 14 Sep 2003 17:39 PDT |
This is what you need: Get a big air compressor with a 25-60 gallon tank and maybe a 1-2hp motor. Turn it on when you leave in the morning, and evacuate it when you get home. It'll both push out the warm air, and fill your apartment with freezing cold air, because when compressed air expands it cools, like freeze-in-a-can. |
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Re: Physics --- Rapidly Moving a Volume of Air
From: nronronronro-ga on 14 Sep 2003 19:00 PDT |
snsh----that is a most creative solution. Thanks for the terrific comment! ron |
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