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Subject: Missing record of aircraft in geophysical survey accident
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: marelena1-ga
List Price: $80.00
Posted: 02 Oct 2003 07:28 PDT
Expires: 01 Nov 2003 06:28 PST
Question ID: 262177
In 1969 an Aero Commander 680E, apparently supplied by the Litton
Corporation to a South African company Map Studio Productions,
involved in geophysical survey, crashed into a mountain near
Dirkiesdorp, Eastern Transvaal. Although 3 people: Canadians Jim Neels
and Dave Banks the pilot and Ed Church a South african co-pilot died,
there is no accident report on record at the SACAA and the only
reference to ZS-MSP is that it was exported to Zambia on 2 July 1970.
Can you throw any light on what happened here?
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Subject: Re: Missing record of aircraft in geophysical survey accident
From: pafalafa-ga on 06 Nov 2003 04:44 PST
 
After a lot of dead ends on this question, I just heard back from a
contact in Africa who has located the actual incident file for this
crash, and can send you a copy.

If you would like the details of her contact information, please open
a new question here at GA (your current question has expired, I'm
afraid), so I can post the information as an answer.

Thanks.

pafalafa-ga
Subject: Re: Missing record of aircraft in geophysical survey accident
From: marelena1-ga on 06 Nov 2003 22:36 PST
 
Thank you for your comment. I thought that no one was interested in
this question. However a few hours before I received your comment
someone in South Africa made contact with me and gave us some people
who might be able to help as well as another registration for the
aircraft. If nothing comes of this I will open another question.
Subject: Re: Missing record of aircraft in geophysical survey accident
From: pafalafa-ga on 11 Nov 2003 05:34 PST
 
Hello again Marelena,

Oh...we're interested in all your questions, all right, it's just that
some are tougher than others.

I received the following document today:

REPORT OF THE ACCIDENT INQUIRY BOARD APPOINTED BY THE MINISTER
OF TRANSPORT TO MAKE AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE CAUSE OF AND
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT WHICH OCCURRED NEAR
DIRKIESDORP, DISTRICT PIET RETIEF, TRANSVAAL, IN WHICH AIRCRAFT
ZS-ULZ WAS DESTROYED AND THREE PERSONS WERE KILLED.



The report begins:

At about 1300 GMT on 6 August 1969, twin-engined Aero Commander
aircraft ZS-ULZ, operated by Messrs. Map Studio Productions (Pty.)
Ltd., Johannesburg, struck the upper reach­es of a high mountain on
the farm Groothoek, near Dirkiesdorp, district Piet Retief, Transvaal.
 It was completely destroyed on impact and subsequent fire.

=============

If you're interested in the full report, you can always repost your
question, and I'll be happy to provide it.

Good luck in your work.

pafalafa-ga
Subject: Re: Missing record of aircraft in geophysical survey accident
From: marelena1-ga on 03 Dec 2003 09:17 PST
 
Thank you for your interest. Hwever at the same time I received the
same report which is unsatifactory. Wil be in contact
Subject: Re: Missing record of aircraft in geophysical survey accident
From: marelena1-ga on 03 Dec 2003 09:19 PST
 
PLEASE READ THIS: Check out new comments onanswers.
Subject: Re: Missing record of aircraft in geophysical survey accident
From: pafalafa-ga on 03 Dec 2003 09:23 PST
 
Thanks for your most recent comments...too bad the actual accident
report didn't meet your needs.

Is there anything you'd like to do in the way of follow-up, at this point...?

pafalafa-ga
Subject: Re: Missing record of aircraft in geophysical survey accident
From: marelena1-ga on 03 Dec 2003 20:28 PST
 
Watch this space?? I'll be posting a new question sometime soon.Regards.

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