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Subject: Math Teaser
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: djma-ga
List Price: $3.00
Posted: 09 Oct 2003 11:22 PDT
Expires: 08 Nov 2003 10:22 PST
Question ID: 264649
Run this program and tell me why the math works ---- http://digicc.com/fido/
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Subject: Re: Math Teaser
Answered By: bobbie7-ga on 09 Oct 2003 12:09 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello djma-ga,

Thank you for Duch an interesting question!


Here is how the Fido math puzzle works.


“For the sum of numbers less than 9: Subtract 9 from the sum of the
numbers given to Fido. That will be your answer.”

Example 1) if your numbers are 2331 and you circle 1 then (2+3+3) =8;
9-8 =1

Example 2) 2430 and we circle 2 then (4+3)=7; 9-7=2

Example 3) 4014 and we circle 4 then (4+1)=5; 9-5=4



“If your number is larger than 9 then you need to subtract 9 from it
until your subtracted number is less than 9 and then subtract nine
again.”

Example 1) if your number is 7857 and you circle 5 then 7+8+7 = 22;
22-9 = 13; 13-9 = 4; 9-4=5

Example 2) 3087 and you circle 8 then 7+3=10; 10-9=1; 9-1=8 

Example 3) 3762 and you circle 2 then 3+7+6=16; 16-9=7; 9-7=2

Solution courtesy of Stewart Hamel

Source: Arachibutyrophobia Website
http://www.arachibutyrophobia.com/archives/000190.html


There is a discussion about the Fido puzzle at this forum where they
also explain how and why this puzzle works.
http://www.bpohl.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=99


Here is a more detailed explanation; however, I prefer the first
solution I gave you, as it is easier to understand.

Take the number 2764 =
 
2*1000 + 7*100 + 6*10 + 4 =
 
2(999+1) + 7(99+1) + 6(9+1) + 4 =
 
2*999 + 2 + 7*99 + 7 + 6*9 + 6 + 4 =
 
(2*999 + 7*99 + 6*9) + 2 + 7 + 6 + 4 =
 
9(2*111 + 7*11 + 6*1) + (2 + 7 + 6 + 4) =
 
(multiple of 9) + (sum of the digits)
 
“So if you divide this by 9 and take the remainder, that remainder
will be the same as the remainder when the sum of the digits is
divided by 9.”
 
“Since the second number has the same sum of digits as the first, no
matter how you scramble them, they will both leave the same remainder
when divided by 9.”
 
“Thus when you subtract, you will get a multiple of 9, because the
remainders will cancel.
 
So you divide it by 9 to see what remainder is left. The remainder
has to be 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7, or 8.
 
This tells you what digit was missing from the sum of the digits.” 
So,

If it's 0, the missing digit had to be 9.
If it's 1, the missing digit had to be 8.
If it's 2, the missing digit had to be 7.
If it's 3, the missing digit had to be 6.
If it's 4, the missing digit had to be 5.
If it's 5, the missing digit had to be 4.
If it's 6, the missing digit had to be 3.
If it's 7, the missing digit had to be 2.
If it's 8, the missing digit had to be 1.
http://www.mnemo.nu/?action=view_question&id=96



If the sum of the digits you gave Fido is larger than 9:
Divide this number by 9, and then subtract the remainder from 9.
That’s the missing number.

Example:
My number: 1218
Mixed up number: 8112
Difference: 8112-1218= 6894
I circle the number 4 and give Fido the number 689
I add up the digits. 6+8+9=23
I divide it by 9. 23/9= 2 remainder 5
Now I subtract the remainder from 9. 9–5=4
4 is the missing number!

If the sum of the digits you gave Fido is less than 9:
Subtract this number from 9 and that’s the missing number.

Example:
My number 1205
Mixed up number: 5210
Difference: 5210-1205 = 4005
I circle the number 5 and give Fido the number 400
I add up the digits 4+0+0=4
Now I subtract this number from 9.   9–4=5
5 is the missing number!


Search Criteria: 
Fido puzzle solution
Fido puzzle works

I hope this answers your question! 
 
Best Regards,
Bobbie7-ga
djma-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $1.00
It was answered clearly, concisely and with backup...very well done.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Math Teaser
From: bobbie7-ga on 09 Oct 2003 12:40 PDT
 
Thank you for the nice rating and tip!
It was a fun question to answer.
--Bobbie7
Subject: Re: Math Teaser
From: bobbie7-ga on 09 Oct 2003 12:46 PDT
 
Sorry about the typo:
The word "Duch" should be "such"
Subject: Re: Math Teaser
From: nickdanger-ga on 10 Oct 2003 12:24 PDT
 
Also, see this page:
http://www.wizardofodds.com/askthewizard/askthewizard89.html
Subject: Re: Math Teaser
From: djma-ga on 10 Oct 2003 12:37 PDT
 
This niceley explains the re-arranging of the numbers point.  Neat.
Subject: Re: Math Teaser
From: g_prime-ga on 13 Oct 2003 19:47 PDT
 
well i just tried this site thing like 6 or 7 times and it only got
the answer right 2 times.. perhaps it doesn't work?
Subject: Re: Math Teaser
From: djma-ga on 14 Oct 2003 05:56 PDT
 
I'm pretty convinced it has to work...post your details on an example
that doesn't work and let's see if we can see why.  My guess is that
we will find something.

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