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Subject:
Kicked out for no reason!
Category: Relationships and Society > Law Asked by: industry-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
21 Feb 2004 23:21 PST
Expires: 22 Mar 2004 23:21 PST Question ID: 309410 |
I recently went to a local sports bar with my girlfriend, my brother and his girlfriend. We went there on a crowded Saturday night celebrate my brothers purchase of a new house in the community behind the bar. We arrive at 8:00pm and sit down at a table to have a drink. Now me and my brother don't drink alcohol, so the only 2 that are drinking are our girlfriends. My brother went to the bar to get 2 waters and 2 beers for us. He comes back to the table with 3 bouncers following. He said he was being kicked out. The bouncers stood around our table and said don't make us push you out. So we follow my brother out. Turns out the bartender's sister dated my brother 7 years ago. He never like my brother, so when we showed up at the bar he was working at, he told the bouncers to kick him out. My point is, what can I do about this? We were made to feel like idiots in the middle of a crowded bar/resturant. Pushed out by the bouncers and bartender for no reason at all. | |
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Re: Kicked out for no reason!
From: aht-ga on 22 Feb 2004 00:44 PST |
There really isn't much that you can do about it, other than to complain to the bartender's employer (ie. the manager, the owner(s), etc). Technically, the sports bar is private property, so they have the right to ask any patron to leave for whatever reason they wish. If the reason provided was one that violated your constitutionally-protected equality rights (ie. if it was because of your ethnicity, your gender, your lifestyle choices, your religion), then you might be able to bring a discrimination-based action against the sports bar and its owners. However, since in this case it is simply because the bartender doesn't like your brother, there is no way to force the bartender to serve you other than to get his manager/bar-owner to order him to do so. Again, it's private property. |
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Re: Kicked out for no reason!
From: probonopublico-ga on 22 Feb 2004 01:07 PST |
Would you want to go back to such a place, anyway? |
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Re: Kicked out for no reason!
From: pinkfreud-ga on 22 Feb 2004 11:39 PST |
It's unfortunate to be the victim of this kind of unfairness, but I don't think it should be illegal for the owners of private establishments to pick and choose their clientele. I say this even though I've been excluded from a private nightclub for a foolish reason. I was once asked to leave a club because the owner thought that redheads are unlucky to have around. It irked me to be discriminated against solely because of my hair color, but I left without making a fuss. It was the club's loss, not mine. I could (and did) go elsewhere to spend my money. |
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Re: Kicked out for no reason!
From: probonopublico-ga on 22 Feb 2004 13:00 PST |
Pink I never knew that you were a REDHEAD ... I adore redheads! (So does Daisy.) |
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Re: Kicked out for no reason!
From: politicalguru-ga on 23 Feb 2004 15:20 PST |
It doesn't appear to me also, that you have much to do. However, you could tell everyone you know not to go there, and tell them why. |
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Re: Kicked out for no reason!
From: soulsister979-ga on 29 Jun 2004 18:07 PDT |
Private property arguments are flimsy when talking about an establishment that is open to the public--discrimination b/c of race, nationality, etc. is clearly prohibited, but owners also cannot arbitrarily deny entrance or remove patrons. The key to this issue is that ANY establishment that serves alcohol has the RIGHT (protected by law) to refuse service at any time for (almost) any reason. Clearly, this situation was unfair but the bartender did a good job of convincing the bouncers that your presence was potentially disruptive. Your only recourse would be to call the manager and alert him of the bartender's actions. On a side note, bartenders are liable for the actions of those they serve and a resonsible manager will trust the instincts of his/her bartenders. Check out the National Restaurant Association's Bar Code Training website. |
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