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Subject: seborrheic adenitis
Category: Health > Conditions and Diseases
Asked by: mcyak-ga
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Posted: 15 Apr 2004 17:54 PDT
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Question ID: 331005
what is the best repacement for skin oil in autoimmune canine adenitis?

Clarification of Question by mcyak-ga on 15 Apr 2004 18:41 PDT
the correct term is sebaceous adenitis not seborrheic adenitis.
Thanks,
mcyak
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Subject: Re: seborrheic adenitis
Answered By: tlspiegel-ga on 15 Apr 2004 21:23 PDT
Rated:3 out of 5 stars
 
Hi mcyak,

A very informative survey was done on Sebaceous Adenitis by Jenny
Drastura... the Survey Results can be viewed at:
http://webpages.marshall.edu/~drastura/results.html

Treatments for SA

"If any conclusion can be drawn from this survey, it is that oil baths
are the single-most successful treatment reported that gave the dogs
the best the chance of improvement in coat, skin and well-being.

Sixty-four dogs were given some type of oil bath or daily to weekly
oil sprays. Most of the oils used were some type of mineral oil based
product such as baby oil, Alpha-Keri oil or Avon Skin-So-Soft. One
person uses cod liver oil. Three use a commercial oil treatment (Nexus
Botanical, Humilac and Pure Pet). While everyone did not specify
whether these oils are mixed with water, quite a few do so, and a
50/50 mixture is what is recommended by most practitioners. The oils
are left on the dog anywhere from 10 minutes to six hours, the most
common being either one hour or two hours. The frequency of baths
ranges from weekly to once a month; most respondents begin with weekly
baths and vary the frequency later after several months as symptoms
improve or recur.

One other product used successfully by a professional groomer who
deals with multiple SA dogs is a special All Systems product mixture
(one part Pure Lanolin Plus Skin & Hair Emollients, one part
Super-Rich Protein Lotion Conditioner and two parts any cream rinse,
all mixed with 8 ounces of water). This mixture is used in place of
the oil, and is washed out with a detergent shampoo and cream rinse.
The benefit is that the formula is much easier to wash out of the
coat. This writer tried the formula after several months of using oil,
and we were able to maintain the progress we made after using the oil.
To be safe, we used oil very fourth time.

The oil is most often washed out with a dishwashing liquid such as
Dawn or Palmolive (24 used these). Most people follow this with a more
gentle shampoo, an oatmeal-based shampoo being the most used (5).
Other shampoo choices include Wonderful, Suave Daily Clarifying, J&J
Almond, Dr. Bizonner's pure castile soap, Absolutely Natural, Coat
Guard and Epi-Smooth. Five respondents used medicated shampoos after
the oil, such as SebaLyt, Sulfoxydex or Sebolux.

Cream rinses such as Jhirmack E.F.A., Nexus Humectress, Mr. Crystal's
Oil of Orchard and Groomer's Edge are used by some respondents after
the final shampoo. At least five use a mixture of propylene glycol and
water as a rinse or in a spray bottle between baths; two respondents
use tea tree oil mixture.

Unfortunately, rating one oil, one shampoo, or even one frequency of
bathing over another is virtually impossible. Results range
drastically, but it is safe to say that all dogs showed at least some
improvement after receiving as few as one or two oil baths.
Respondents reported that scales, flakes and odor greatly disappeared
after even one bath. One dog, for example, went from completely bald
to a full coat; another was able to maintain its coat. A long-haired
dog (Lhasa Apso) went from completely bald on the body and tail to a
coat that touched the ground, but with no undercoat and sparse tail
hair."

[edit]

"Several people mention that summertime brings on coat loss regardless
of the frequency of bathing, a phenomenon that could may or may not be
related to the SA. It appears that the only conclusion that can be
drawn here is that while oil is definitely a successful factor in
improvement, the amount used and the frequency of the baths just may
depend on the individual dog. From the descriptions given, there did
not appear to be a great variation in the actual methods used to give
the baths.

At least seven respondents were not told by their veterinarian to use
the oil baths for treatment. Three of the respondents found out about
the oil baths as a result of this survey and have seen marked
improvement as a result. One Poodle owner feels that in addition to a
great improvement in the skin texture and a modest regrowth of hair,
the dog's disposition has also improved. A Samoyed owner who has seen
marked improvement in skin and coat also feels that her dog is much
happier and feels much better since the oil treatments have been
started. Several others who had not been told about the oil plan to
try the method and update us at a later time.

Some of the respondents not using oil baths are not without progress.
One person sprays her dog with tea tree oil twice a week, uses Redken
products every other month and oatmeal-based products as needed in
between. This person's dog is being shown in obedience. Propylene
glycol helped another dog regain coat on both sides of the spine. One
Lhasa owner whose dog clearly had signs of SA, but who did not have an
official diagnosis, used Desenex shampoo and dabbed the lesions with
Listerine. That dog is now in coat, according to the owner. However,
at least four dogs being bathed only in medicated or other shampoos
are still experiencing moderate to severe skin and coat problems.

Respondents were asked about the use of supplements. The supplements
being used are: fatty acids (11); Vitamin E (10); Derm Caps (9); oil
of primrose (7); flax seed oil (6); Vitamin A (6); Missing Link (6);
Vitamin C (5); fish oil (4); cod liver oil (3); brewer's yeast (3);
garlic (3); Ester-C (3); kelp (2); selenium (2); and one each
Linatone, zinc, Solid Gold sea meal, shark cartilage, pureed spinach,
Vitamin K, Lipiderm, vegetable oil, peanut butter, Vita-Coat,
sunflower oil, Canine Complete, astragulus, flax meal, Vitamin D,
C-Biotics, seaweed mineral food, Allerderm caps and Prozyme. When
asked if these supplements have been useful, most respondents are
unsure since there are other factors involved and other treatments
being used at the same time. Twenty-one felt that any supplements they
have used have not been helpful. However, these positive comments were
made:

"Without Missing Link, the dog would be bald"; (two said the product
was ineffective);
"Vitamin E, primrose oil, Derm Caps have shown overall improvement:; 
"Primrose oil, fish oil, topical oil may have contributed to dramatic
regrowth after 3 ˝ months";
"Daily peanut butter has definitely helped"; 
"Hokamix, flaxseed oil, Vitamin C, Geto Kola, euphrasia, red clover,
Vitamin B, kelp, echinacea with gardenseal all seem to have helped."

*****

Food effectiveness was the next question. Thirteen respondents
specifically said they felt the food they use has had no effect one
way or the other. There were nine foods listed by respondents who were
unsure of how effective the choices were. These foods are: Nutro or
other lamb and rice foods (4); Nutro Natural Choice (4); Kal Kan
Pedigree (3); Iams Eukaneuba (2); and one listing each for Bil Jac,
Sold Gold, Purina, Kibble and Bits plus table scraps, and a natural
diet of raw meat and vegetables plus cooked grains.

There were positive comments about the following foods: Iams Eukaneuba
(2 positive comments); Solid Gold Hundenflocken mixed with California
Natural and cooked food; Nutromax (2 positive comments); canned
Nature's Recipe; Lick Your Chops fed with cooked chicken and cottage
cheese; Wysong (2 positive comments); Wendy Volhard's Natural Diet;
Eagle; and an all-natural diet.

Nine respondents have sought help from a holistic or homeopathic
practitioner. One saw improvement after seeing a veterinary
chiropractor who treats all skin conditions as a parasitic problem. A
formula called Unda #3 was prescribed, and the owner saw improvement
after one month.

[edit]

"... people plan to try homeopathic methods and said they will update
their dogs' progress later.

Ten respondents have tried retinoids. One felt that Accutane helped,
although it took several months. Another dog was made ill by the
Accutane, and another person felt it did not work..."

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Sebaceous Adenitis - Also known as SA
http://www.natural-akita.com/JPTeez/html/sa.html

"Treatment is relatively inexpensive, with the most difficult aspect
of SA usually being a cosmetic one.   Most dogs with SA can live happy
lives free of pain and suffering, however, secondary conditions can be
problematic to both dog, medical care giver and owner."

[edit]

"Currently there is no cure for SA but with good care, the affected
dog can be kept comfortable, healthy and happy, giving and receiving
love just as before developing SA. The treatment includes antibiotics
when secondary skin infections are present. Oil baths, a non perfumed
oil is rubbed well into the skin ensuring saturation (baby oil or a
bath oil i.e., Alpha Keri, Redken products have proven beneficial),
this is allowed to soak on the dog for about an hour. The oil loosens
the scales and lubricates the skin, now compromised from absence of
sebaceous oil glands. Palmolive dish washing detergent is good at
removing the oil which often takes several shampoos. Finished with a
mild dog shampoo and creme rinse. This procedure is repeated biweekly
or month as needed. Some dogs grow new hair after treatment, others do
not. The hair loss and regrowth is cyclical."

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http://www.upei.ca/~cidd/Diseases/dermatology/sebaceous%20adenitis.htm

"Your veterinarian will likely try a combination of approaches, to
determine with you what will be most effective for your dog. Most
important is the regular use of anti-seborrheic shampoos to remove
scales and dead hair, together with fatty acid dietary supplements.
This may be all that is required in mildly affected dogs. Additional
treatments include spraying the dog with a mixture of propylene glycol
and water to help restore lubricants to the skin and the use of oral
essential fatty acids.

For the veterinarian: Retinoid therapy and cyclosporine have been used
with variable results in refractory cases. Contact the Genodermatosis
Research Foundation (GRF) for the most current recommendations on
therapy."

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Sebaceous Adenitis by Stephen White 
http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00094.htm

Treatment

"A number of regimens have been used and the response has been
variable. Listed below are the regimens used by this author, with
preference given to the ones listed first. Treatments may be used in
combination, with the exception of using the vitamin A with retinoids
(because they are essentially the same type of medication). Treatment
of secondary pyoderma is a necessity.

Vitamin A, oral: small to medium dogs 10,000 IU q12h; large breeds
(Akitas, Standard Poodles) 20,000 IU q12h.

Fatty acid supplementation (double strength); evening primrose oil,
500 mg twice daily.

Two hour application of bath oil, followed by five to seven shampoos.
Repeat twice monthly. Hair loss is seen initially followed by hair
regrowth.

50%-100% propylene glycol sprays applied once daily followed by
anti­seborrheic shampoos every three to four days initially. Slowly
reduce the frequency of sham­poos initially, and then the frequency of
the propylene glycol sprays to the least frequent application that
helps to control the problem.

Isotretinoin (AccutaneŽ) or acitretin (SoriataneŽ) 13 mg/kg every 12
hours until remission; then the lowest, most infrequent dose required
to control clinical signs."

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Bark Bytes 
http://www.barkbytes.com/medical/med0009.htm

"Frequents baths (every 10-14 days) using a good hypoallergenic
shampoo is recommended. Some dogs have been reported as responding
well to baby oil soaks following the baths. The baby oil soak helps to
loosen the scales and will temporarily restore moisture to the skin. 
The oil should be left on the coat for 20-30 minutes.  Removing the
oil will necessitate several thorough shampoos.  Some dogs regrow
hair, however frequent relapses, with the hair falling out will occur.
 The owner now faces starting the process all over."



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Best regards,
tlspiegel
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Comments  
Subject: Re: seborrheic adenitis
From: pinkfreud-ga on 15 Apr 2004 18:00 PDT
 
A friend of mine had a dog with this condition. She got good results
using Alpha Keri bath oil.

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