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Subject: william phillips and caroline astor drayton phillips
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: spiderlegs-ga
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Posted: 02 Jun 2004 07:39 PDT
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Question ID: 355300
I am looking for inforamtion on these two people and if there are any
children or grandchildren still alive. If there is any contact
information. I know that they had four children, Beatrice strauss,
William phillips Jr, Anne phillips Bryant, Chris Phillips and Drayton
Phillips. She comes from the Astor family. Also, is he from the Duncan
Phillips family?I think his mother's name is anna, and the sister
martha.

Request for Question Clarification by omnivorous-ga on 02 Jun 2004 09:53 PDT
Spiderlegs --

I've found out quite a bit about William Phillips and can make some
excellent recommendations for further research but can't answer the
core of your question (who were the children and are they still
alive?)

There were 6 children from the Phillips-Drayton marriage, including
Christopher Hallowell Phillips, who was a U.S. ambassador to several
countries and the United Nations.  However, so far I haven't been able
to find out much about him.

Surprisingly, the New York Times didn't carry an obituary for William
when he died Feb. 23, 1968.

Do you want me to post what I have or do you already have a
substantial biography of William?

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Request for Question Clarification by omnivorous-ga on 02 Jun 2004 11:11 PDT
Spiderlegs --

Since posting that original note, I've found out a little about
Christopher Hallowell Phillips and believe that he's still alive.  A
widower, he remarried in 1997.  The wedding story doesn't mention any
children.

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Clarification of Question by spiderlegs-ga on 02 Jun 2004 13:02 PDT
I have some information from from some diary entries.
I am guessing that it was Beatrice Phillips Strauss who might have
died in the last year and the diaries were apart of her estate. She
was the eldest according to the diaries. There were six children? Did
two die at an early age? Because, I only find references to the four,
that I mentioned in her diaries. I just ordered his book Ventures in
Diplomacy. you probably found this site
http://oasis.harvard.edu/html/hou01519.html
I have the names of the four children but haven't found their
children. Caroline mentions grandchildren but no names. The
interesting thing about her is that she was a first hand witness to
almost all the great events in the twentieth  century. Both world
Wars, flu epidemic, he was ambassador to Italy under Mussolini. He was
involved in Palestine with the first negotiations of the UN partition
and Israel. He was in India before their independence.

So, I guess what my question is: Who is still alive? Can they be
found? Is William from the duncan Phillips family that started the
Phillips Collection, a museum here in Washington DC.The two met here
in DC in 1909 and were married in 1910. His mother I think that one of
the kids just published a book about Christopher Columbus.

Clarification of Question by spiderlegs-ga on 02 Jun 2004 13:03 PDT
Oh yes and I did have the names of five children and I think the six
might have died.
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Subject: Re: william phillips and caroline astor drayton phillips
Answered By: omnivorous-ga on 02 Jun 2004 13:10 PDT
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Spiderlegs --

A little more work and I've found enough that I think that we can
qualify an answer to your question.  In fact, after failing to find
William Phillips' 1968 obituary in the New York Times, I found a
reference to it at the Washington Post page (you can purchase the
article there for $2.95) -- then went back and searched the NY Times
manually.

I only just read your comments.  Note that Harvard would be a good
place to start, if tracking family members.  As you'll see below,
there's strong reason to believe that Christopher is alive and living
either in the Boston area or in the Washington, DC area.



WILLIAM PHILLIPS
================

William was born May 30, 1878 in Massachusetts, then spent a long
career in the U.S. Foreign Service.  Though a Republican, he met and
married Caroline Aster Drayton, who was both a granddaughter of
William Astor and a second cousin to Franklin D. Roosevelt.  The
couple grew close to Roosevelt and supported him in 1932.

William and Caroline had six children, five of whom survived his death
in Sarasota, FL on Feb. 23, 1968.  They were:
1.	William Phillips, Jr., then of Ridgefield, CT
2.	Drayton Phillips, then of Wenham, MA
3.	Christopher Hallowell Phillips
4.	Mrs. Elliott B. Strauss, then of Geneva
5.	Mrs. John W. Bryant, then of Beverly Farms

There were 13 grandchildren and one great-grandchild at the time of
his death.  Willliam and his wife lived in Beverely, MA.  She died in
1965.

Phillips' career was amazing, encompassing the following events:
?	Assistant secretary of state under Woodrow Wilson, 1917-1920
?	Ambassador to Italy from 1936-1941, where he tried to dissuade
Mussolini from entering World War II against the U.S.  He resigned
after failing.
?	Ambassador to India from 1942-1944, where he was sharply critical of
British colonial government.  When his letters to Pres. Roosevelt were
leaked, it caused numerous diplomatic problems.
?	In 1946 he served on the Anglo-American Committee on Palestine,
which recommended a 10-point plan for creation of a Palestinian state
that would be neither Jewish nor Arab.
?	In retirement he wrote a book, "Ventures in Diplomacy," Beacon Press, 1952.

He was closely associated with the Houghton Library at Harvard.  His
wife's diaries are at Schlesinger Library at Harvard.  He also was an
active member of the Massachusetts Historical Society.


CHRISTOPHER H. PHILLIPS
========================

Son Christopher also served in the U.S. State Department.  He was
ambassador to Brunei, 1989-1991; head of the National Council for
U.S.-China Trade; and was Deputy Permanent U.S. Representative to the
United Nations from 1969-1973.

In November, 1997 he married Sydney Watkins Osborne in Ipswich, MA. 
The NY Times wedding announcement notes that Phillips was a trustee
with the American Institute in Taiwan and that he was based at the AIT
headquarters in Arlington, VA.

You'll see him quoted in this 2004 advertising circular for France Magazine:
France Magazine
"Editorial Profile" (2004)
http://www.francemagazine.org/images/pdf/mediakit_en.pdf

And I'm pretty sure that this is our guy, adjusting his glasses in the
picture on p. 5 of this association newsletter:
Association For Diplomatic Studies and Training
Newsletter, Spring 2002
http://www.adst.org/newsletters/adstspring02.pdf


Google search strategy:
?	Biography Resource Center, a Thomson-Gale database available at many
public libraries
?	NY Times search via Proquest Historical newspapers.  You can also
search the NY Times (or Washington Post) sites yourself and articles
are available for purchase.  The Boston Globe, which certainly would
have carried a detailed obituary as well, is only available online
since 1979.
?	"Christopher H. Phillips" is the reference used for him most-often
and is an effective search strategy.  I also did searches for
Christopher at several sites related to his U.S. State Department
career:
State Department
Christopher H. Phillips
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/po/com/10397.htm

Diplomatic and Consular Officers, Retired
Christopher H. Phillips
http://www.dacorbacon.org/DACOR/Drinking%20Cups_Hurley_Picture_Silver.htm

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Request for Answer Clarification by spiderlegs-ga on 02 Jun 2004 14:15 PDT
Hi Thanks! that was interesting to see a picture of one of her kids.
You say that Harvard has a copy of her diaries? I have run across a
copy myself and it is amazing! Her daughter Beatrice was with the
French resistance (WWII)and recieved the French "Croix de Lion" She is
also active in Forgn service. Did you find any connection with the two
Phillips families from DC Duncan of The Phillips collection? I would
love to see a picture of her. After reading her diaries I would love
to put a face to her words.

Clarification of Answer by omnivorous-ga on 02 Jun 2004 14:34 PDT
Spiderlegs --

That's an interesting note about Beatrice.  Let me poke around a
little more to see what, if anything, we can find.  This search
started slowly (as you can tell from the time-stamps on my Requests
for Clarification) but the new information that you provided may open
some more doors.

The Thomson-Gale bio notes that her diaries are at the Schlesinger
Library; as far as I know they've never been published.  However,
there was a PhD dissertation done by Paul Henry Reuter, Jr. on
Phillips in 1979 while he was at the University of Southern
Mississippi.

The Thomson-Gale biography is highly recommended for its completeness.

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Request for Answer Clarification by spiderlegs-ga on 02 Jun 2004 14:34 PDT
http://www.osssociety.org/Summer_2002_5.PDF
This link talks about the work Beatrice Phillips did in the OSS before
she was Beatrice P Strauss.

Clarification of Answer by omnivorous-ga on 02 Jun 2004 15:04 PDT
Spiderlegs --

I can't find any pictures of Beatrice Phillips Strauss, though they
certainly exist in old newspaper or magazine archives of the time. Her
debut in Boston society is noted in the NY Times on Oct. 7, 1933 when
her father was Undersecretary of State.

Beatrice went with him to Italy in 1936, preceding even her mother. 
An article on her in March, 1940 notes that she's 26 and is studying
to be a chauffeur for Anne Morgan's Friends of France, a relief group.
 To get her chauffeur's license, she completed a course in Washington,
DC on auto mechanics.  The group stayed active in France after the
German invasion of that country in 1940.

The NY Times notes the marriages of three of Ambassador Phillips
children during World War II:
*  Evelyn Gardiner, of Boston, to Drayton, Dec. 1, 1940
*  Barbara Holbrook to William, Jr. on Oct. 26, 1941
*  Ame Phillips to Lt. John W. Bryant, June 16, 1942

Sorry, I don't have any information on the Phillips Collection.

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Request for Answer Clarification by spiderlegs-ga on 02 Jun 2004 16:55 PDT
Thanks! It is all very interesting. These were/are "silver-spoons"
that worked hard as civil servants. The decorum and sense of country
is extraordinary. I wish I could send you these diaries (they are all
hand typed about 2000 pages or more! She was even making notes in her
diary about race relations in Little Rock.
But anyway, I looked for the Thomson-gale Bio that you mentioned do
you know how to access it? Also the Rueters dissertation. She said
that John Singer Sargent did her portrait. I looked through google
images and couldn't find it. It could be called Caroline Aster Drayton
or Caroline Phillips. You have done a lot. Tell me when you feel you
have exhausted the search or the 25.00! There was a post card in one
of the books with an address two blocks from where I live! Humm....
Thanks again

Clarification of Answer by omnivorous-ga on 02 Jun 2004 17:51 PDT
Spiderlegs --

Some 90% of the Internet content isn't available directly, the
Thomson-Gale databases being among them.  It's a subscription service
that many public libraries have, including mine.

Similarly, there are services like Proquest (which also offers the
indexed NY Times back to 1851) which track dissertations:
http://wwwlib.umi.com/dissertations/

My best recommendations:
1.  check your local library
2.  in the case of specialized documents like the Reuters
dissertation, they can probably get them on inter-library loan

By the way, one avenue that I pursued and failed on was searching for
lists of French Croix du Lion winners online, even though my French is
pretty good.

I'm coming pretty close to the end of what I'm likely to find without
a better academic library.  If I were in Boston, I'd probably head
over to Harvard.  There's quite a bit of correspondence between the
two Phillips and Henry Cabot Lodge on diplomatic issues too.

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Clarification of Answer by omnivorous-ga on 02 Jun 2004 17:58 PDT
Spiderlegs --

You are aware that you can use Google's Image search for "John Singer
Sargent" to see if the portrait is available on the Internet?

I did a quick check of Corbis, which like Getty Images is a supplier
of artwork and photographs.  Corbis, owned personally by Bill Gates,
has a large collection electronic copies of original artwork and some
35 Sargent portraits -- though I didn't see anything close:
http://pro.corbis.com/

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA
spiderlegs-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Thankyou very much. I appreciated your quick response!

Comments  
Subject: Re: william phillips and caroline astor drayton phillips
From: omnivorous-ga on 20 Aug 2004 17:20 PDT
 
Alexander --

You'll see quite a bit here on Google Answers regarding OSS and World
War II (it seems to be a favorite topic of mine and Probonopublico-GA
-- you might try searching on either or both screen names -- or just
on the OSS).  You might be able to elucidate on that and some of the
other questions here, if you don't consider it too private.

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

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