Who is the hand on Frank Sinatra's shoulder in the rat pack posted
called "boys smoking"

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Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 06 Jan 2005 13:48 PST

If this is the poster, I don't see a hand on Sinatra's shoulder.
Someone has his hand on Dean Martin's shoulder, though.

http://www.jiveposters.com/view/10113319

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Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 06 Jan 2005 13:58 PST

I have found another version of the photo which shows whose hand is on
Dean Martin's shoulder. The poster is a cropped image, but in the full
image you can see who is sitting beside Martin, with his arm around
him and his hand on Martin's shoulder. Please let me know if that's
the information you seek.

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Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 06 Jan 2005 22:43 PST

If the poster linked above is not the correct poster, it would be very
helpful if you could point us toward the right image.

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Clarification of Question by kewaba-ga on 07 Jan 2005 09:26 PST

Sorry that is the poster and the hand is on Dean Martin and that is
the answer I need.

Thanks.

Comedian and game show host Jan Murray has his hand on Dean Martin's
shoulder in this photo.

The poster was made from a photograph which is described as follows:

"Rat Pack at Carnegie Hall
Jan Murray (L) sits alongside Rat Pack members Dean Martin, Sammy
Davis Jr., and Frank Sinatra as the group unwinds backstage at
Carnegie Hall after entertaining at a benefit performance in honor of
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
 
© Bettmann/CORBIS  
 
Date Photographed:  January 27, 1961  
Location Information:  Manhattan, New York, New York, USA" 
 
Corbis: Rat Pack at Carnegie Hall
http://pro.corbis.com/popup/Enlargement.aspx?mediauids={e3725162-5bed-4d67-8950-c4a7807bcb95}|{ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-ffffffffffff}&qsPageNo=1&fdid=&Area=Search&TotalCount=93&CurrentPos=6&WinID={e3725162-5bed-4d67-8950-c4a7807bcb95}

I've enlarged a section of the photo, and you can see that the hand
belongs to Jan Murray (who has his arm around Dean Martin), not to the
unidentified man standing in the background:

http://www.mortalwombat.com/Special/ratpack.jpg

My strategy in locating this information began with a search on the
Corbis site, which has a huge archive of commercially available
photographs. I thought I remembered having seen the Rat Pack boys in
this pose in a photo at Corbis, and once I located the photograph
(with the caption that mentioned Jan Murray), things fell into place.

I hope this is precisely what you need. If anything is unclear or
incomplete, please request clarification; I'll be glad to offer
further assistance before you rate my answer.

Best regards,
pinkfreud

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Clarification of Answer by pinkfreud-ga on 07 Jan 2005 10:38 PST

I notice that the Corbis link didn't come through in clickable form.

To see the photo, please try this link instead:

http://tinyurl.com/4yrd4

~pinkfreud

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Request for Answer Clarification by kewaba-ga on 07 Jan 2005 10:49 PST

Thank you so much, that is great.  It looks like someone is standing
behind them, is the hand for sure Jan who is sitting next to them?

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Clarification of Answer by pinkfreud-ga on 07 Jan 2005 10:54 PST

If you look at the size and positioning of the hand, there is no way
that the hand could belong to anyone but Jan Murray. Check the
enlargement, here:

http://www.mortalwombat.com/Special/ratpack.jpg