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Subject: Word puzzle
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: denverd-ga
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Posted: 26 Jul 2002 10:40 PDT
Expires: 25 Aug 2002 10:40 PDT
Question ID: 45488
There are 26 letters in the alphabet, number each in order 1-26 (i.e.
A=1, B=2, C=3...Y=25, Z=26).
Separate the number 15284476 into individual letters comprising a
single word.  My question is, what is the corresponding word to solve
this puzzle?

Request for Question Clarification by rhansenne-ga on 26 Jul 2002 15:55 PDT
Are you sure about the number, because without re-arrangement, the
only two possible 'words are':

aebhddgf
obhddgf

None of which make sense. These are the only two, since '284476'
necessarily results in single-figure characters because any sequence
of two figures is greater then 26. So, the 'word' ends with 'bhddgf'.
Only 15 can be interpreted as '1-5' ('ae') or '15' ('o'). Could you
perhaps provide us with the entire puzzle?

Kind regards,

rhansenne-ga.

Request for Question Clarification by justaskscott-ga on 28 Jul 2002 10:23 PDT
When you say "separate" the number 15284476, do you mean factor it?

The factors of this number are 2, 2, and 3821119 (which I found on a
list of prime numbers).  I tried playing around with these numbers --
converting them into different combinations of letters and rearranging
them -- without success.  But there are many possible ways to convert
these numbers to letters, so perhaps another Researcher would be able
to rearrange them successfully.

Clarification of Question by denverd-ga on 29 Jul 2002 06:26 PDT
Here are the rules exactly as shown in the puzzle- 

"Step #1: There are 26 letters in the alphabet, number each, in order,
1-26 (i.e. A=1, B=2, C=3...Y=25, Z=26).  Step #2: Assign the numbers
to the letters in the clue answer (say the clue is "BOY" B=2, O=15,
Y=25).  Step #3: Then just add up the letters in each word (2 + 15 +
25 = 42 = BOY),  That's the number for that solved clue."..."To derive
the final answer all you need to do is separate the final number into
individual letters comprising a single word."

The final number I have come up with is 15284476.
 
There are a lot of different puzzles, which when figured out
correctly, will add up to the final number.  There are way to many, &
some of them use clues from previous puzzles I have solved, to list
here.  I have made scans of the pages but do not know how to paste
those on here.

Thanks for everybodys help so far.

Request for Question Clarification by philip_lynx-ga on 02 Aug 2002 03:16 PDT
Hi Denverd,

as ulu explains in his comments, simply adding the values of letters
to get to your number would give you a very long (and extremly
ambigous) word indeed. If the letter were encoded like this (boy ->
2*27*27+15*27+25 = 1888), you would have a unique solution for each
number. Your number 15284476 would decode to SINTAA. sigh...

Clarification of Question by denverd-ga on 02 Aug 2002 06:11 PDT
The answer is supposed to be derived from converting the numbers into
their corresponding letters in the alpahabet, where a=1, b=2, c=3,
etc...  Whether each number indivdually = a letter or whether a
combination of #'s = a letter is part of the puzzle.  The numbers in
15284476 should correspond to letters to form a word.  Thanks.

Clarification of Question by denverd-ga on 04 Aug 2002 09:49 PDT
BOY - B=2, 0=15, Y=25.  2+15+25 (B+O+Y) = 42.
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There is no answer at this time.

Comments  
Subject: New number
From: ulu-ga on 26 Jul 2002 11:43 PDT
 
Can you say how 15284476 relates to 15009166?
Subject: Re: Word puzzle
From: s_milberg-ga on 26 Jul 2002 14:15 PDT
 
I'm not sure what you mean.  How can the numbers be combined?  Would
aaa be encoded as 111? or as 3?  Any other rules you are not
mentioning?
Subject: Re: Word puzzle
From: pinkfreud-ga on 26 Jul 2002 14:27 PDT
 
It would be very helpful if we could see the puzzle in its exact
original form, including the steps which led to the number 15284476.
Subject: Re: Word puzzle
From: angy-ga on 28 Jul 2002 00:10 PDT
 
Even starting the number count at another letter of the alphabet i.e.
B=1, c=1 etc, does not give a valid word when the letters are kept in
sequence.
Subject: Re: Word puzzle
From: bebop-ga on 28 Jul 2002 23:55 PDT
 
Can a letter be numbered twice or more?  For example, A=1 and 27?  Do
we have limits to how large a letter's corresponding number can be? 
(in other words, this is not the word "a," where A=15284476, is it?)

And please, no more references to 111! ;)
Subject: Tome?
From: ulu-ga on 29 Jul 2002 09:58 PDT
 
Since it is addition and let's say 13 is the average value for a
letter:

15284476 / 13 = 1175729 letters or about 1 megabyte!

Something doesn't seem quite right.

Perhaps you can list an example from previous puzzles that is slightly
more complicated then "BOY".  I would imagine that even 42 has
multiple answers.

Is it a phrase so that maybe 15 28 44 76 all make separate words?
Subject: Re: Word puzzle
From: shadowgate-ga on 31 Jul 2002 22:19 PDT
 
If the additive rule is truly correct then maybe the answer is
the sum of all the letters is some well known book such as
the bible.
Subject: Re: Word puzzle
From: shadowgate-ga on 31 Jul 2002 23:14 PDT
 
Working on ulu's assumption that maybe we should consider the digits
in pairs. I find the following words for 15:

AIDA
AN
BID
CAFE
FACE
FED
GAG
IF
LAB

I can produce a similar set for 28, 44, and 76. However, a quick glace
reveals none that can be combined to yield a common phrase.
Subject: Re: Word puzzle
From: ulu-ga on 02 Aug 2002 20:13 PDT
 
Okay, trying to go further...

Assuming you can rearrange the digits to make new letters:
12445678

Possible letters from using the above numbers:
ABDEFGHLNOPQRUXYZ

Consider what vowel combinations can be used:
A,AE,AY,E,EU,O,U,Y

I did not have any luck making a word with the remaining letters, but
it was not an exhaustive search.

This one has been a puzzler.
Subject: Another attempt...that didn't work
From: ulu-ga on 04 Aug 2002 01:43 PDT
 
BOY = 200 + 150 + 25 = 375 ?

This didn't work for me.
Subject: Re: Word puzzle
From: letterrip-ga on 16 Sep 2002 22:39 PDT
 
Did you try stirrup yet?  I posted the answer in a comment the last
time you posted the question...

s = 15, t = 2, i = 8, r = 4,  u = 7, p = 6.
LetterRip

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