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Subject:
On-Line transaction escrow service.
Category: Business and Money Asked by: niko11-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
15 Jan 2005 17:52 PST
Expires: 14 Feb 2005 17:52 PST Question ID: 457895 |
Is the escrow service ibusinessland.com legitmate? I have been asked buy the company to only send cash via Western Union to a company agent in London. They will not accept payment via bank wire transfer or credit card. I am purchasing a $2500 computer from a privare party in London. This feels unusual to me. |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 15 Jan 2005 18:38 PST |
Dear niko11, I must advise against committing any money to iBusinessLand.com. I have checked the list of their "offices around the world": http://www.ibusinessland.com/contact.php The results are extremely suspicious: - They claim that the location of their Italian office is Strada Nova 4391, Venice. That address indeed exists, but it is neither the seat of an iBusinessLand office nor an office building at all: It is a hotel, and nothing else: http://paris.francenet.fr/profil/0,3997,VENFRAPLICIT43275,00.html http://www.guidesdecharme.com/contenu/fiche_hotel.asp?fiche_id=FICH2E98E2D9&lang=EN - They claim that the address of their US office is 849 Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica, California. This address exists, but it is the location of a hotel, the Hotel Oceana: http://www.hoteloceanasantamonica.com/contact.html - They claim that the location of their Danish office is Banegardspladsen 33 in Copenhagen. This address does not even exist at all: Banegardspladsen is a rather small sqare; the house numbers already end with No.7. - And, most ridiculous of all, at the alleged location of their "Head Office" in London there is only a cheap hotel, the Comfort Inn Vauxhall - nothing else, no offices of any companies. http://www.vip-hotels.com/areas/details.asp?HID=8956&ID=1962&path=12,14,2396,1962&town=London http://www.europeanrailguide.com/destinationguides/london/london_hotel_200629.php Apart from this, it is more than suspicious that for none of these "offices" the telephone number is provided. So we have a "company" whose offices are either located in hotels or at nonexistent addresses. Or, with other words: Those offices do not exist at all. They are fake, and the entire company iBusinessLand is most likely nothing but a scam. No reputable company would ever use fake addresses like these. For that reason, I must advise that you do not commit any money to them. Regards, Scriptor Additional research source used: Danish Telephone Directory, Address Search http://www.degulesider.dk/vbw/kort/index.jsp Search terms used: 30131 venezia "strada nova 4391" ://www.google.de/search?hl=de&newwindow=1&c2coff=1&q=30131+venezia+%22strada+nova+4391%22&btnG=Suche&meta= "Banegardspladsen" 1570 ://www.google.de/search?hl=de&newwindow=1&c2coff=1&q=%22Banegardspladsen%22+1570&btnG=Suche&meta= "87 South Lambeth" ://www.google.de/search?hl=de&newwindow=1&c2coff=1&q=%2287+South+Lambeth%22&btnG=Suche&meta= "849 ocean" "santa monica" ://www.google.de/search?hl=de&newwindow=1&c2coff=1&q=%22849+ocean%22+%22santa+monica%22&btnG=Suche&meta= "hotel oceana" "santa monica" ://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%22hotel+oceana%22+%22santa+monica%22&btnG=Google-Suche&meta= |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: probonopublico-ga on 15 Jan 2005 23:36 PST |
This is indeed unusual. Usually, it's a Buyer who requests the Seller to use an escrow service. It's for Buyer protection. |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: iminquisitive-ga on 16 Jan 2005 00:26 PST |
The site, ibusinessland.com, was registered on January 10, 2005, less than one week ago. The site is hosted on a provider that only charges $7.95 a month. Western Union is also the payment method of choice for scammers. This escrow service is *clearly* a scam. |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: capitaineformidable-ga on 16 Jan 2005 02:27 PST |
?Caveat emptor?, let the buyer beware, shows that there have been scammers around since Latin times and it has not changed yet. Also I know that Western Union charges 10% of the money value transferred for their service. I suspect you will be required to pay a similar amount, so the computer may not be such a good deal after all. You will probably get a better deal at your local computer fair. capitaineforlidable |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: probonopublico-ga on 16 Jan 2005 03:23 PST |
capitaineforlidable ... Who's he? Although capitaineforlidable does not seem at all formidable, he makes a very good point. Who's going to pay 10% on such a transaction? And why a $ transaction? A London seller would normally opt for £ Sterling. |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: capitaineformidable-ga on 16 Jan 2005 04:06 PST |
Hi Bryan, Just as an aside, if you do a web search on Capitaine Formidable then you will know that I am writing these comments from the other side. Maybe not so formidable but still pretty amazing powers, eh. C.F. |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: ninjabread-ga on 16 Jan 2005 05:57 PST |
Ok I'm hanging around wasting time, but for some more personal research you could grab a piece of the about company section at http://www.ibusinessland.com/company.php eg used 'is a leading provider of e-business development and integration services for large to medium sized companies' ://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=%22is+a+leading+provider+of+e-business+development+and+integration+services+for+large+to+medium+sized+companies%22&meta= |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: ninjabread-ga on 16 Jan 2005 06:22 PST |
... and a good source to start from to help you sort the wheat from the chaff, http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/questions/avoid-fraud.html I guess eBay know their stuff, whether or not transaction is through them it is a good guide & not hyped. |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: pinkfreud-ga on 16 Jan 2005 12:02 PST |
I agree completely with Scriptor's evaluation. I would not trust this service with 25 cents of my money, and I would certainly not trust them with $2500. There's some good info about fraudulent escrow services here: http://www.carbuyingtips.com/fraud.htm |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: probonopublico-ga on 16 Jan 2005 12:53 PST |
Wow ... What a GREAT link, Pink! |
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Re: On-Line transaction escrow service.
From: capitaineformidable-ga on 16 Jan 2005 14:40 PST |
Ge Whiz Pink, this really is the up side of not having a credit card. |
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