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Subject: LSD Decay
Category: Science > Chemistry
Asked by: mcneill420-ga
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Posted: 21 Jan 2005 15:25 PST
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Question ID: 461231
At what rate does d-lysergic acid diethylamide decay?  During the
process of decay, does the active compound simply become inert, or can
the chemical process create new compounds with different properties?

Request for Question Clarification by tlspiegel-ga on 21 Jan 2005 22:28 PST
Hi mcneill420,

Does this information answer your question?  If so please post a
clarification asking me to post in the answer box.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth1.shtml

"There is an often circulated myth that once you have taken LSD, it
remains in your body forever. The main thing that keeps these rumors
circulating the is fact that some people (though very few) experience
"flashbacks" (generally within a few months after a hallucinogenic
experience). It is generally accepted, however, that these flashbacks
are not the result of lsd remaining in the system.

LSD is almost entirely metabolized within a day after ingestion. Since
the half-life of LSD is only a few hours, only a very small amount of
LSD remains even at the end of the trip, and this is excreted in the
urine. All traces are undetectable after several days and are
certainly gone entirely within a couple of weeks.

It has long been reported that LSD is fully metabolized almost
immediately after ingestion. This was based on research done in the
50's and 60s which used instruments not sensitive enough to detect the
extremely small amounts of the chemical. More recent research shows
that LSD's metabolism takes several hours and its peak plasma levels
occur at around 3-4 hours after ingestion.


From: "Measurement of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) in human plasma
by gas chromatography/negative ion chemical ionization mass
spectrometry." Papac DL, Folts RL , J.Anal. Toxicol., 14, 189-190
(1990)
In a volunteer given about 70 ug, the apparent plasma half-life of LSD
is 5.1 hr. The peak plasma concentration of 1.9 ng/mL occurred 3 hr
after administration.


From LSD My Problem Child, by Albert Hofmann, 1969 
The concentration of LSD in the various organs attains maximum values
10 to 15 minutes after injection, then falls off swiftly. The small
intestine, in which the concentration attains the maximum within two
hours, constitutes an exception. The elimination of LSD is conducted
for the most part (up to 80%) through the instestine via liver and
bile. Only 1 to 10 percent of the elimination product exists as
unaltered LSD; the remainder is made up of various transformation
products.


From Psychedelics Encyclopedia : 
LSD is a very curious chemical. When given by injection, it disappears
rapidly from the blood. It can be observed when tagged with Carbon 14
in all the tissues, particularly the liver, spleen, kidnes, and
adrenal glands. The concentration found in the brain is lower than in
any other organ -- being only about 0.01 percent of the administered
dose. [...]


LSD is highly active when administered orally, absorbed through mucous
membranes r through the skin, and is almost completely absorbed by the
gastrointestinal tract. Concentrations in the organs reach peak values
after only ten to fifteen minutes; then they decrease very rapidly.
[...] Some 80 percent of injested LSD is excreted via the liver, bile
system and intestinal tract, with only about 8 percent appearing in
uring. After two hours, only 1 to 10 percent is still present in the
form of unchanged LSD; the rest consists of water soluble metabolites
-- such as 2-oxo-2,3-dihydro-LSD -- which do not possess any LSD-type
influence on the central nervous system.


Psychic effects of LSD reach their peak about one to three hours
following ingestion, when much of the substance has disappeared from
the body's major organs, including the brain, though measurable
amounts persist in the blood and brain for about eight hours.


From the DEA Web Site : 
LSD is absorbed easily from the gastrointestinal tract, and rapidly
reaches a high concentration in the blood. It is circulated throughout
the body and, subsequently, to the brain. LSD is metabolized in the
liver and is excreted in the urine in about 24 hours.


From Pharmacotheon : 
The drug is almost completely eliminated from the body before the peak
effects begin, suggesting that it acts as a sort of catalyst, inducing
neurochemical changes which subsequently result in the entheogenic
experience. Only about 1-10% of injected LSD is excreted unaltered,
the remainder as a variety of degradation products."

=========


From Psychedelic Drugs Reconsidered : 
The half-life of LSD in blood plasma is about two hours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD


"LSD's primary effects normally last from 6 to 12 hours. One
characteristic feature of LSD is that with higher doses, the intensity
of the experience increases, but not the duration. It is typical for a
user of LSD to be unable to sleep restfully until at least 12 hours
have passed, and they do not feel completely "back to normal" until
after getting one or two full nights of restful sleep, although they
will exhibit no outward signs of impairment after the drug has worn
off.

LSD has an extremely short half life in the body. Most of the drug's
already minuscule dose is eliminated before the trip is even over,
suggesting that LSD triggers some sort of neurochemical cascade rather
than acting directly to produce its effects."

==========


Best regards,
tlspiegel

Clarification of Question by mcneill420-ga on 21 Jan 2005 23:57 PST
I'm sorry...I didn't phrase that very well.  I am more interested in
LSD's "shelf life" - its rate of decay and longevity when stored. 
Thank you for your time.

Request for Question Clarification by tlspiegel-ga on 22 Jan 2005 00:03 PST
Hi mcneil420,

Thank you for the clarification.  Sorry, can't help you with that
information.  Perhaps another researcher will be able to provide the
answer.

Best regards,
tlspiegel

Request for Question Clarification by hedgie-ga on 22 Jan 2005 00:37 PST
You want to know the shelf life at room temperature
or (what) range of temperatures?
Refigeration and light, particularly UV  are a  significant influence.

Clarification of Question by mcneill420-ga on 22 Jan 2005 11:11 PST
Say at room temp, no exposure to UV light.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Decay if ergot alkaloids
Answered By: hedgie-ga on 23 Jan 2005 01:38 PST
 
Please do read an important disclaimer at bottom of the page:
GA does not provide medical advice. Guidance for using any 'materia
medica'  must be obtained from a licensed physician.

This story may be of interest to a student of history: 
 Dr. Albert Hoffman from the Sandoz Pharm. Co. obtained lysergic acid
from the ergot fungus of the rye plant, and synthesized it with azide
acid. He put this lysergic acid diethylamide  on the shelf for 5 years
until he handled it...
http://faculty.juniata.edu/wiinamaki/Drugs&SocietySyllabus.htm

For more data, one can look at properties of ergot alkaloids in general,
some have similar structure and are widely used in medicine:
Ergotamine alleviates migraine headaches. Ergonovine is used...
http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/e1/ergot.asp
http://www.rsc.org/lap/educatio/eic/2004/infochem_mar04.html


SEARCH TERMS: The Ergot Alkaloids, 'shelf life',

Request for Answer Clarification by mcneill420-ga on 23 Jan 2005 22:51 PST
The first link was useful but the information it contained was no
anecdotal w. too many unknowns.  One of the second two links didn't
work and the other one seemed to deal more w. the effects of ergot.

Is there any places you would suggest I look for a half-life graph of
LSD decay or something similar?  And, also, is there any source you
can think of where information can be found on any compounds that
develop as a result of the decay of the main chemical, d-lysergic acid
diethylamide?  Ideally, a chemical equation would provide useful and
consise info.

Clarification of Answer by hedgie-ga on 24 Jan 2005 02:21 PST
If by 'equation' you mean chemical formula,
 that info is available

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_chemistry.shtml

It is important to give some indication of (educational, technical) level
 when asking a question - else researcher has to guess.  

A graph ?? You did not really specified how you measure degradation
or condition of sample (in solution?..)

You may find more data in the FAQ:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_faq2.shtml
and technical books
http://www.erowid.org/library/books/botany_and.shtml
and also look on (chemically relates substances) such as sertonin
[
http://www.chemsoc.org/exemplarchem/entries/2004/bristol_rosling/My Webs/LSD.HTM 
]
   [  ...] means : one link. You have to paste it in the browser.
Also please do review 
http://answers.google.com/answers/pricing.html

hedgie
Comments  
Subject: Re: LSD Decay
From: hardhat-ga on 21 Jan 2005 18:00 PST
 
I don?t know the answer to your question. All I know is I?m still
waiting for the flashbacks "they" promised us in the 60?s.
Subject: Re: LSD Decay
From: c12719-ga on 20 Nov 2005 19:56 PST
 
Hoffman has stated that in sealed glass ampules (purged of O2)shielded
from light (refrigerator) the shelf life is indefinite. Anecdotal -
samples wrapped in polyethylene, stored in freezer in air tight glass
containers with a dessicant such as silica gel or dry calcium sulfate,
will not show noticable difference after a year of storage according
to bio assay. Degradation products exhibit no bio activity. Principle
causes of degradation in order are: light and/or heat, water, and air.
It would be impossible to chart degradation rates without knowing
ambient storage conditions - minutes in sunlight to perhaps years in
dry, dark, 0*F. Pharm Chem in Palo Alto, CA might be able to provide
more information.

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