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The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: silver777-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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17 Feb 2005 17:16 PST
Expires: 19 Mar 2005 17:16 PST Question ID: 476274 |
The following is asked ON BEHALF OF Capitaineformidable-ga. Please refer to CF or Norman with your response. ?What is it in the female psyche that causes the fair sex to answer the question that hasn?t been asked?? E.g. Q. ?How long will it be before the meal is ready, love?? A. ?It?s chicken!? Q. ?What are we eating tonight, dear?? A. ?It will not be long? Regards, per Norman |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
Answered By: pinkfreud-ga on 17 Feb 2005 20:43 PST Rated: |
Mon Capitaine, Of course it's big. I've been sitting on it for fifty-seven years. (Please request clarification if you think it will do you any good.) ====================================================================== But to the point: it is my belief that most women are inherently somewhat more suspicious and less trusting than are most men. I know to a near certainty that if I were to go over to my husband and say "Oh, sweetie," and smile, he would think to himself "She loves me!" Whereas, if my husband were to come over to me and say "Oh, sweetie," I would think to myself "I wonder what he's up to." Perhaps we women answer the unasked questions because our restless, unsatisfied minds can't accept the simplicity and honesty of what we have actually been asked. I am not sure of this, and I cannot speak for all women, but this is my theory, and I am stickin' to it until something better comes along. C'mon, you didn't expect to get a straight answer outta me, did you? Very best regards, pinkfreud |
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The "tounge-in-cheek" question was answered with clarity and honesty. The answer arrived from the best possible source of all .. an honest lady. I am sure that Norman would agree. I trust that his thoughts concur with mine as hix proxy in "shouting" the question on his behalf. Kind regards, Phil per Norman (another packet of cashews from the peanut gallery) |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: guzzi-ga on 17 Feb 2005 18:13 PST |
Aliens -- trafalmadorian. Best |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: pinkfreud-ga on 17 Feb 2005 18:22 PST |
?What is it in the female psyche that causes the fair sex to answer the question that hasn?t been asked?? This is caused by the mysterious female hormone Guesstrogen. |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: timespacette-ga on 17 Feb 2005 18:51 PST |
Dear Capitaine, we are psychic aliens -- from Trafalmador -- and other nooks, crannies and hidey-holes of the Universe. we consider things in a circular fashion -- or spirally, depending on your viewpoint. we live only to confound you, to widen the chinks in your armor, to obfuscate your world and cause you to become unstuck in time, and thereby gain indirect -- but complete -- control . . . good luck, timespacette-ga |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: lrulrick-ga on 17 Feb 2005 19:45 PST |
As one of the fairer sex I must say that I often answer many questions before they are asked for several reasons. ***I know that they will be asked at some time ***Because I can always answer an unasked question correctly ***To annoy the less fairer but still simply as wonderful members of the other sex You should now take note that I did not answer what causes me to do it, but rather why I do it. |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: sublime1-ga on 17 Feb 2005 19:55 PST |
Norman... I'm exercising my feminine side... Q. "What is it in the female psyche that causes the fair sex to answer the question that hasn?t been asked?" A. "The phase of the moon is irrelevant." |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: silver777-ga on 17 Feb 2005 20:12 PST |
Hi Norman, What a great question! Wish I had posted a question like that. Ya know, I reckon I have the answer after having experienced first hand the frustration you describe. It's because (some) women think that we think like they think. But we don't. They think that every question has an underlying meaning and therefore they answer their assumption of that "real" meaning to what was a simple question with no ulterior meaning in the first instance. You can often see the cogs of analysis turning if you make eye contact when the answer to your unasked question is given. As if to think to themselves ~ "Now, what does he REALLY mean"? ~ Now this could be likened to "second guessing" as in the answerer to your question takes on an approach of responsibility and ownership of your every thought, then redirects your thought by answering the unasked. This is a conditioning thing. No wonder there are so many bust ups. Communication is always the key, but of course it's too late after the damage has been done. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, a chicken dinner is a chicken dinner and a simple question deserves a simple answer. Phil |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: capitaineformidable-ga on 18 Feb 2005 02:54 PST |
Superb responses to a very tongue in cheek question. I wasn?t sure how this would be received but the ?ga community has come up trumps again! No clarification necessary, I don?t believe it?s that big anyway, Pink; and what a great one-liner. ts You already, secretly know you have control but constantly keeping us wrong footed to maintain your power base makes sense. Laura, I can?t fault what you say even though you answered the question that wasn?t asked! Sublime1, I couldn?t agree with you more, I?ve noticed this problem seems to get worse after the moon has stopped shining. Phil, yes playing the double game is always fun for one of parties concerned but second guessing the double game is really confusing. Does this bring us back to the single game or out into another dimension that us males are not capable of reaching? Norman. |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: myoarin-ga on 18 Feb 2005 05:25 PST |
silv777 gives a delightful comment. I would like to confirm that the phenomenon is not limited to English speakers; German females are just as good (or bad) at it. This raises the question if it it occurs in non-western societies/languages (Hindi, Chinese, Turkish, ??). It also raises the question: do women managers who compete effectively in a male business environment succeed because they they learn to answer immediately the question asked (suppress the urge to answer the unasked one) or maybe just aren't subject to the urge?? (Major Higgins: "Why can't women be more like men ...) |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: silver777-ga on 18 Feb 2005 05:37 PST |
Pink .. You would have to be one of the few honest women I know. Your answer echoes what I was saying in my comment. Guzzi .. aliens? .. is that why men are from Mars and women are from Venus? TS .. Hi, long time, no chat Laura .. a perfect answer exemplifying my own comment Sublime .. summed up beautifully by example Norman .. I can't answer your last question. I'm now more confused than ever. I suppose I now also have the POWER of rating the answer. Phil |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: silver777-ga on 18 Feb 2005 05:53 PST |
Norman, can you hear what I hear or am I hearing things? |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: capitaineformidable-ga on 18 Feb 2005 06:24 PST |
Phil, It's all in the mind, I'm told (by a reliable authority). Norman |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: lrulrick-ga on 18 Feb 2005 07:52 PST |
I once answered a question with the exact response that a male counterpart did. Yet their answer "scored" higher. Another time I was told how cute it was that I knew the answer. I believe that women have come to the realization that for many things we need to go above and beyound the simple asked question and give more information than required in order for men to take us seriously. Now, I don't want to see any of that "sexist" thing being posted after my comment- but this is the way I see it. A male competitor twice my age, half as talented does not need to prove himself and his ablilities with the same vigor that I do when approaching a prospected client. I have learned through out my life that to be held on the same level as my male counterparts I must work harder than them and often skip the "simple" answers and answer the unasked ones. I once was told I had gotten a job over a few choice men because I was "cute". For almost a year I had to prove that I had been the best canidate for it and could perform the job better, I did double the work a man would have had to do and was questioned by other employees regularly on my qualifications to do the job. I spent that year tieing my hair back and changing oil in cars, learning how to align tires and turn rotors and replacing motors not because my job as a service writer required it, or because the male advisors could (they couldnt do it either), but because I felt I needed to prove that I was more knowledgible on cars in order to gain their respect. In my professional life even now I find myself needing to "over compensate" for being a woman in what is surley a mans world. So it may be that I tend to let that feeling over flow into my personal life by continueing to answer things not yet asked, provide more information than required, blah blah. And by the way, we will be having roasted garlic chicken, mashed cheese potatoes, homemade bread and at this time some unknown veggie for dinner. I may or may not make cookies tonight. |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: steph53-ga on 18 Feb 2005 08:09 PST |
Hi Norman et al... I answer unasked questions because intuatively I "feel" them :) Steph53 |
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From: capitaineformidable-ga on 18 Feb 2005 12:22 PST |
Laura, When I chose this subject to post, I didn?t know if I was going in to bat or field, as we say in cricket, (attack or defend). I don?t quite know how to react on your story, except that cute got you through the door and dedication and ability closed it behind you. Yes, and sometimes women are not taken seriously by men with lesser abilities, at least not until these men are placed in a position where they can?t answer back by someone with greater knowledge or hands on experience. I do believe in a meritocracy. In fact when I owned a factory, many years ago, I gave the foreman?s position to a 21 year old, over many older guys (no women wanted to do that job) because he had proved he had a head on his shoulders and could run the job when it was going wrong. Anyone of them could do it when it was going right. You will always be second best in attitude if you allow yourself to be placed there. When some smug chauvinist tells you it?s ?cute? you know something, say ?Oh, did you know that too, what a charming story?, or something of the like. ?I discovered that when I was working on the Porsche ?C? class, where did you find it out?? Without going out to flaunt your knowledge a time will come when they realise that you have more answers than they have questions and then respect will flow to you, as it should. Until then I will agree that it is an uphill push but that is just the way the world is, I?m afraid and that won?t go away by wishing it. Having said that, women do give some very confusing (apparently stupid) answers on occasions but as timespacette-ga has explained this is to maintain control by constantly wrong footing us. There is nothing wrong with expanding an answer so long the simple answer is in there somewhere also. ?We are having garlic chicken tonight and it will be ready in twenty minutes?. What is wrong with that? What is your feeling on myoarin-ga?s comment about women business managers suppressing the urge to answer the unasked question or even not thinking of it? Has he got a point or not? (Seriously you seem qualified to answer this one or at least have an opinion on it). Don?t make the meal sound too delicious or I might invite myself round someday and then I will have to be on my best behaviour and try not to spit on the carpet (or even worse on the ceiling) ? just joking. When my wife and me were both working, the rule was the first one through the door of an evening, cooked the meal and that was not an excuse for going for a few drinks on the way home. Norman. |
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From: capitaineformidable-ga on 18 Feb 2005 12:37 PST |
Yes Phil, It seems like it's time to heap on the stars. Pity GA doesn't have moons just for Pink! Norman |
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From: lrulrick-ga on 18 Feb 2005 15:58 PST |
Don't take my comment as a pity me, I get pleasure from proving myself "worthy", and even working in the shop with the guys- it had benefits. At the time I was 18, and could do more with my car than my older brother. Getting the grease outta my very long hair was the only down fall... and even now I like to remind my husband that I know more about fixing cars than he does. I believe that given all, being a woman and being treated like a "WOMAN" the way many men still see us, had give me my thirst for knowledge, and it is very cute when a chauvinist man has to break done and ask for my help on something. I just cherish that little blush they get while trying to request my assistance. I see things this way, I do live in a mans world- and I do have to often prove myself to others because I am a woman, however if I had never had to would I still have taken the time to learn what I know? I doubt I would be so addicted to learning new things and sharing that with others. My mother said it builds charactor, that what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. Each instance of anyone (yes even other women doubt each other) has helped to fuel my desire to learn more and be the best of whatever it is I am doing. I don't regret that I need to assure others that I am capable, I do like to be able to prove myself. I may over answer a question, or respond before one is asked... such as the chicken is smelling so good in the oven right now that I can smell it from my office. But really... you wanted to know how it would turn out didnt you??? BTW- I'm still old fashion enough that the woman in this house cooks all the meals, makes the coffee in the morning (even though I don't drink it), sets out his cloths, and brings him his dinner. He's still old fashion enough to enjoy it. |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: capitaineformidable-ga on 19 Feb 2005 01:05 PST |
Laura, Your mother is right, doesn?t it give you a feeling of satisfaction to be as proficient as others and better than many in your chosen field, all achieved by your own efforts. I do hope your femininity hasn?t suffered as a result of competing in a man?s world, I suspect not. It is good for men to be men and women to be women and all compete on a level playing field. The world keeps turning and things change gradually for the better. By way of example, where I live about a quarter to a third of the bus drivers are women, something unheard of twenty years ago. Norman |
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From: silver777-ga on 19 Feb 2005 04:11 PST |
Norman, I trust that you will be satisfied with my answer rating and obligatory comment on your behalf. We would have to admit, Pink's answer was on the mark and very frank. If only we could communicate so openly with one another as Pink has chosen to do. Phil |
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From: silver777-ga on 19 Feb 2005 05:02 PST |
Neither of the sexes is greater nor lesser than the other. We are simply and equally different. Thank God .. for life would not be worth the experience without women. Phil |
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From: capitaineformidable-ga on 19 Feb 2005 06:09 PST |
Hear! Hear! Five well deserved 'Moons' for the Pink Lady. Norman |
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From: capitaineformidable-ga on 19 Feb 2005 12:02 PST |
The thing that I found most fascinating about the comments is that after Pinks initial reaction to the audacity of the question, none of our five lady respondents denied it was a real effect and in some way or another tried to give an honest explanation of it. Once again thanks for your candour, this has given me a spur to sort out my credit card. Norman |
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Re: The female psyche and pre-emptive answers to unasked questions
From: silver777-ga on 20 Feb 2005 04:57 PST |
Hi Norman, I'm not so sure that Pink's reaction was one of "audacity" in thought, but rather of her usual humour (OK, HUMOR spelling for the phonetical Yanks) and play on words with "Guesstrogen". Pink's honest answer is proof of that, for sure. BTW, what do you mean in reference to your credit card? Regards, Phil |
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From: capitaineformidable-ga on 20 Feb 2005 11:35 PST |
I was the one who asked the audacious question. The reaction to the audacity of the question was the bit in between, ?Mon Capitaine? and the double dotted line! I don?t know anyone to equal Pink for the pertinent quick one liner, slipped in like a rapier between the ribs. Unsurpassed! As for the credit card, I don?t have one. I had one when I had the business until it went tits up in ?91 (sorry for the sexist remark Laura). After that I decided not to join the plastic society and to be honest I hardly ever miss it. It?s just when I want to ask questions on Google, or order something from Amazon I can?t get anywhere else, it becomes a bit inconvenient. I got the relevant forms a while back but other things have been happening here so it got put onto a back burner, so to speak. Must get round to it. Now if Google accepted debit cards I wouldn?t have a problem. Thanks for the shout Phil Norman. |
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From: lrulrick-ga on 20 Feb 2005 13:37 PST |
Norman, sexist remark?? You may say tits up any time you feel the need... nothing sexist about that. I only worry that at times I am taken for being sexist.... I am not consumed with others being or not. Just don't want to appear that way myself. As to other women not disputing that we often answer things strangly- I don't see room for us to agrue something as honest as that. Women do. |
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