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Subject: Old Bailey Trial Information
Category: Reference, Education and News
Asked by: dakhurst-ga
List Price: $200.00
Posted: 04 Mar 2005 12:54 PST
Expires: 03 Apr 2005 13:54 PDT
Question ID: 484803
I am anticipating being in London, UK in the near future and would
like to attend a trial at the Central Criminal Courts (the "Old
Bailey"), especially at Court Number One, which has a long and famous
history of sensational trials.  I would like information as to how one
determines upcoming trials scheduled at the Old Bailey, with an
interest in Court Number One.  As well, is it possible to determine
which of the upcoming trials will be of major public interest and if
so, details of these trials.

In addition, what, if any, procedures are necessary for an individual
to attend any of the foregoing.  Can one just show up and be admitted
to any trial?  Is it wise to plan arriving early for any trial one
might want to attend?  Can one reserve ahead for any trial that one
wishes to attend?

As much information as possible with respect to the foregoing would be
greatly appreciated.
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Subject: Re: Old Bailey Trial Information
Answered By: answerfinder-ga on 05 Mar 2005 04:55 PST
 
Dear dakhurst-ga,

As a former New Scotland Yard detective, I?ll be pleased to help you
and give you some additional tips. The Old Bailey (the correct title
is the Central Criminal Court), deals with the major criminal cases
which occur in London and some of the south-east of England, and some
of the lesser criminal cases from the City of London. Court One is
famous as the location of some of the important trials of English
legal history, but nowadays not all the notorious trials are heard in
that court. The old architecture and layout of the court does not
always lend itself to the requirements of modern trials where
technology such as computers, video interviews, and filing cabinets
full of exhibits clutter up the court. So yes, pop your head in to see
Court One and experience the atmosphere, but some of the other courts
may have some suitable cases if your seeking to see English criminal
justice in action.

The public gallery is open Monday - Friday 10.00 to 13.00 and 14.00 to
17.00 (cases often finish by 16.00- 16.45) The court is closed on Bank
Holiday Mondays and the day immediately after. There is a reduced
court sitting in August.  Spaces in the public gallery can never be
reserved. The queue for the public gallery starts at about 9.30 am.
Security is strict and there is nowhere to leave your cloaks. Some
additional information appears here.
http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/our_services/law_order/central_criminal_court.htm

The entrance to the Public Gallery is on the north side of the
building in Newgate Street. Here?s a map of the area.
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=531757&y=181280&z=1&sv=old+bailey&st=6&tl=Old+Bailey,+London,+EC4m&searchp=newsearch.srf&mapp=newmap.srf

The Court Service web site provides details of cases appear at the Old
Bailey. To save you trying to navigate around the site, this is the
direct link to the daily lists.
http://www.courtnews2.co.uk/courtlists/current/indexdailies.htm

Scroll down to where it says Central Criminal Court and click on the
Daily Courtroom list for the next day.  You will see listed here all
the cases that appear in the various courts and a comment on the
status of the case.

First thing in the morning session, most of the courts are engaged in
the administration of cases: setting the date of trials, hearing bail
applications, and preliminary hearings to agree evidential matters.
These will not be of much to interest to you. For example, they are
indicated in the list by: ?For Plea and Directions?, ?For Application
to Break Fixture?,  ?Application to Extend Custody Time Limit?,
?Preliminary Hearing?.

Some are engaged in sentencing cases and these are detailed in the
list: ?For Sentence? or ?Committal for Sentence?.  In these cases you
will hear the defendant plead guilty to an offence(s). The prosecution
barrister will then outline the facts of the case and the defense will
plead their mitigation. The judge may then pass sentence (it depends
if all the necessary reports have been completed (probation, medical,
etc..)

Some trials will be starting anew. This is indicated by the words:
?For Trial?. If you enter the court at the beginning of the trial you
will hear the arraignment of the defendant, the jury selection (not as
long as in the US), and the opening of the case by the prosecution and
the commencement of calling the witnesses. The time this takes can
vary from one hour to two ? three days depending on the circumstances
of the case.

My advice is if you want to see the cut and thrust of a court case is
to select a court which has on the list: ?Trial (Part Heard)? against
it. This is exactly what is says, the case is underway and with a bit
of luck you will hear witnesses or the defendant giving evidence and
being cross-examined. There?s no guarantee to this though. The case
may be at the stage of prosecution/ defense opening or closing
speeches, judges summing up, or agreed evidence being read out.

If you will not have access to the web when you?re in the UK, don?t
worry, the list is posted outside the court each morning.
Unfortunately, the list does not give any indication of the type of
trial underway, the only way to ascertain this is to Google UK news
sites or read the UK papers the day before to try and see if a
noteworthy trial is being reported in the media. The London newspaper,
the Evening Standard, is a good source of information if you buy it
the evening before your intended visit. You can ask the Public Gallery
ushers if they can recommend any interesting trials (can?t guarantee
if they will help you).

There are other courts in the London area where you can see trials.
Southwark Crown Court, just down from Tower Bridge, deals with lesser
matters but it is easier to move around the courts; you also mingle
with the barristers, witnesses and defendants. You will feel more part
of the system than at the Old Bailey where the public is separated. In
court you will be sitting much closer to the participants; outside the
court, you will be able to over-hear conversations between all the
different parties; and, see some people from the less salubrious side
of UK society.
http://www.courtservice.gov.uk/using_courts/court_info/southwark/


Also worth visiting are the Royal Courts of Justice, in the Strand.
The cases here range from commercial cases to criminal court appeals.
You will not see criminal trials here, but the building has some
wonderful architecture and it has a very ?Victorian? feel to it.
http://www.touruk.co.uk/london_sights/royalcourtsofjustice1.htm


These sites may also give you some additional background information
so you will be able to understand a little easier as to what is
happening in the court.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/QuickFind/GuideToGovernment/G2GMenu8/G2GArticle8/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4003098&chk=L7MDtm
http://www.courtservice.gov.uk/about_us/structure/
http://www.courtservice.gov.uk/about_us/structure/criminal.htm


I hope this has been of some help and that you enjoy your trip. I hope
this answers your question. If it does not, or the answer is unclear,
then please ask for clarification of this research before rating the
answer. I shall respond to the clarification request as soon as I
receive it.
Thank you
answerfinder

Clarification of Answer by answerfinder-ga on 05 Mar 2005 05:36 PST
Sorry, I omitted to deal with one part of your question. Trials at the
Old Bailey are either fixed date trials or have floating date within a
two week period. For a fixed date, the date is fixed some time in
advance. This date is occasionally published in newspaper articles and
you would have to research the UK news sites to see if this is
reported. If you know the name of the case you could telephone the
'List Office' of the court to obtain the date of the trial.

A floating date means that it will come up anytime with a
pre-announced two week period (parties to the case are told of the
date of this two week period, but this is unlikely to be published in
a newspaper). There is no way to find out the date of the trial apart
from looking each day at the daily list that I have referred you to.

answerfinder-ga

Clarification of Answer by answerfinder-ga on 06 Mar 2005 09:13 PST
dakhurst-ga,
I've been thinking about your question. Nearer the time, if you let me
know by way of comment on this question when you intend to visit the
UK, I'll start some research on current and forthcoming noteworthy
trials and hopefully be able to guide you to a suitable case. Is there
any type of trial you are seeking?  Murder, fraud, robbery etc?
answerfinder-ga
Comments  
Subject: Re: Old Bailey Trial Information
From: scriptor-ga on 04 Mar 2005 13:31 PST
 
This could be useful:
http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/our_services/law_order/central_criminal_court.htm

Scriptor
Subject: Re: Old Bailey Trial Information
From: dakhurst-ga on 30 Apr 2005 10:19 PDT
 
Dear answerfinder-ga,

I will be in London from May 13 to 21, 2005.  I would be interested in
trials other than commercial cases, so murder, robbery, assault, other
violent crimes I think would be of interest.  Thank you in advance.
Subject: Re: Old Bailey Trial Information
From: dakhurst-ga on 30 Apr 2005 10:43 PDT
 
P.S.  I suppose the Sion Jenkins trial will be finished before I arrive.
Subject: Re: Old Bailey Trial Information
From: kated22-ga on 15 May 2005 13:41 PDT
 
There is going to be a very interesting trial around the time you're here.

A very well-known Egyptian businessman is pleading not guilty to
charges of conspiracy to murder leading Egyptian politicians (two
government ministers, speaker of parliament, and the Egyptian
president's chief of staff).

Here's a link to BBC News coverage of the story:
http://212.58.240.36/2/hi/uk_news/3618608.stm

The trial is scheduled to begin on May 16 (tomorrow).

Hope this helps.

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