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Subject: Calculus Integration
Category: Science > Math
Asked by: iceswimmer-ga
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Posted: 21 Mar 2005 12:39 PST
Expires: 30 Nov 2005 20:52 PST
Question ID: 498186
What is the integral of X over e^X.  Please show your work.
X/e^X
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Subject: Re: Calculus Integration
From: uccoskun-ga on 21 Mar 2005 14:10 PST
 
x/e^x=xe^-x you can use INT(udv)=uv- INT(vdu)=> u=x dv=e^-x =>
xe^-x=-xe^-x+INT(e^-x)=-xe^-x -e^-x
Subject: Re: Calculus Integration
From: shockandawe-ga on 21 Mar 2005 14:20 PST
 
The other elementery way is to use power series representation.
Subject: Re: Calculus Integration
From: herkdrvr-ga on 22 Mar 2005 05:09 PST
 
Ummm...I didn't get that answer at all.

What I got was this...and please tell me if I'm in error...


    e^-x[1+xln(e)] 
_ ____________________
    
        ln(e)^2
Subject: Re: Calculus Integration
From: anantha_krishna-ga on 22 Mar 2005 08:13 PST
 
This should be a simple integral
x/e^x = x*e^(-x) INT = integral
integrating.. using INT(u*dv) = (u*v)-INT(v*du)
u = x and dv = e^-x
subsituting and simplifying we get

 = -xe^-x + INT(e^-x)dx
 = -xe^-x - e^-x
 = -(e^-x)*(1+x)
 = -(1+x)/e^x

I think this must be the answer ??????
In case of doubt differentiate it to get the Q' back.
Subject: Re: Calculus Integration
From: ticbol-ga on 22 Mar 2005 14:42 PST
 
Let me join the fun. This reminds me of some my friends during some
discussions. We argue on something---when we are almost all speaking
of the same thing.

The 3 answers shown are all the same answer.
The simplified form is -(x+1) / e^x

-xe^-x -e^-x
= -x(e^(-x)) -e^(-x)
= [-e^(-x)]*[x+1]
= -(x+1) / e^x  
Same.

---------------------
  e^-x[1+xln(e)] 
_ ____________________
    
        ln(e)^2
Since ln(e) = 1, then, your answer is
-{e^-x)[1 +x(1)] / (1)^2}
= -{[e^(-x)]*[1 +x] / 1}
= -{[e^(-x)]*[1 +x]}
= -{(1+x) / e^x}
= -(x+1) / e^x
Same. So you really got the answer also.

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Why -(x+1) / e^x ?
Let me not skip some steps.

Integral of x over e^x.
Actually, that should have been
INT.[x / e^x]dx.
The experts tend to consider the "dx" as always there. But if you are
just a beginner, it pays to always consider the "dx" be there.
Integral of expressions, like (x /e^x), means nothing. The integrand
must always have a differential, a "dx" in this case.

So, INT.[x /e^x]dx
= INT.[x(e^(-x))]dx
= INT.[x *(e^(-x))dx] ----(i)

Let u = x
Then, du = dx

And so dv = (e^(-x))dx
Then, v = INT.[e^(-x)]dx 
= INT.[e^(-x)](-dx)(-1)]
= -INT.[e^(-x)](-dx)
= -[e^(-x)]

Hence,
INT.[x /e^x]dx
= INT.[x(e^(-x))]dx
= INT.[x *(e^(-x))dx] ----(i)
= u*v -INT.[v*du]
= x*(-[e^(-x)]) -INT.[-[e^(-x)]*dx]
= x*(-[e^(-x)]) -INT.{[e^(-x)](-dx)}
= x*(-[e^(-x)]) -{e^(-x)}
= x*(-[e^(-x)]) +[-{e^(-x)}]
= (-[e^(-x)])*(x+1)
= -(x+1) / e^x

---------------
Some experts cringe when somebody tries to "re-invent the wheel". But
it is always a pleasure for me to re-invent the wheel infront of those
who may not know yet how the wheel was invented. Well, the wheel was
invented in many ways. Some of those ways, I know.
Subject: Re: Calculus Integration
From: tarkmwain-ga on 27 Mar 2005 19:26 PST
 
My Calculator (TI-89) says :

[-x/ln(e) - 1/(ln(e))^2] * e^-x
Subject: Re: Calculus Integration
From: ticbol-ga on 28 Mar 2005 01:11 PST
 
[-x/ln(e) - 1/(ln(e))^2] * e^-x
= [-x/1 - 1/(1)^2] * [1 /e^x]
= [-x -1]*[1 /e^x]
= [-(x+1)]*[1 /e^x]
= -(x+1) / e^x

Same.

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