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Benefits of 64-bit Windows XP?
Category: Computers Asked by: pcventures-ga List Price: $4.50 |
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25 Apr 2005 16:50 PDT
Expires: 25 May 2005 16:50 PDT Question ID: 514147 |
If I get a PC with a 64 bit processor, I can get a promo copy of XP Professional 64 bit edition. What sort of benefit would I see from running this version of XP? Faster overall performance? Less bogging down when the hard drive gets a bit busy? |
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Re: Benefits of 64-bit Windows XP?
Answered By: djbaker-ga on 25 Apr 2005 17:43 PDT Rated: |
Greetings! The question of what kind of benefits you will see from a 64 bit processor/operating system really depend on what kind of work you do on your PC. The big advantage a 64 bit system has over a 32 bit one is the ability to handle math computations better. For educational institutions, corporations or anyone doing large amounts of calculations/processing this translates into a decent block of time in savings. The average PC user on the other hand will only see a slight upgrade in performance. Microsoft has a web page set up here which lists in their opinion the top 5 reasons to get Windows XP Professional x64 Edition http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/top5.mspx There is a potential downside to upgrading to xp 64. In my research I came across a number of people reporting compatibility problems with programs such as Adobe Acrobat and Windows Media Player. The bottom line is that 64 bit processing is definitely the direction the industry is heading. While you may not see an immediate increase in performance as more programs come out which are written to take advantage of the 64 bit architecture you will probably begin to see real speed increases. Until then you may have to suffer through some problems as the bugs and compatibility problems are worked out. Links you might find interesting... The difference between 64 and 32 bit processors http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com/windowsxp/articles/581/1/The-difference-between-64-and-32-bit-processors Microsoft XP 64-Bit Edition http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xp64ovw.mspx#EFAA Hope this answered your question. If you have any questions or need something cleared up please request a clarification before rating my answer and I'll be happy to see what I can do. Best, djbaker-ga Search Strategy: xp 64 benefits ://www.google.com/search?q=xp+64+benefits&hl=en&safe=off 64 bit processing explained ://www.google.com/search?q=64+bit+processing+explained&hl=en benefits windows 64 over windows xp ://www.google.com/search?q=64+bit+processing+explained&hl=en |
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Re: Don't upgrade just because it's free
From: xm177e2-ga on 07 May 2005 08:33 PDT |
Forget 64-bit Windows XP... I have AMD FX-51 and FX-53 but will not be upgrading to 64-bit Windows XP until I find 64-bit programs that I need/want. 64-bit Windows will run regular (32-bit programs such as games)SLOWER than in 32-bit Windows. Reasons to forget 64-bit Windows XP Pro 1. You need to install 64-bit drivers (which are rare) For ALL of your hadware, you will need to install a driver made specifically for use in 64-bit Windows XP. Most hardware manufacturers do not offer such drivers at the moment. (Graphics card, PCI cards etc.) 2. You don't have any 64-bit applications Only the 64-bit applications (Do you have any? I don't think so.) will run faster(they won't run in 32-bit) on Windows 64-bit edition. 32-bit applications (I'd say 99.99999% of all programs made for Windows XP)may run just fine but statistics show that they will run slightly slower on 64-bit enviroment. 16-bit applications will not run at all on 64-bit enviroment. Not many software companies are developing 64-bit version of their program at the moment. They are waiting for Intel to release their 64-bit processors because AMD's market share is about 16-17% (2004) and about half of those numbers are for the Athlon XP which is 32-bit only. And how many owners of AMD64 are using 64-bit Windows? I'd say less than 5%. Why would software developers create programs for 64-bit Windows when there are less than 0.1% of Windows users using or thinking of upgrading to 64-bit? Wait a year or two, see how the software market for the Windows 64-bit develop. 3. Beta-versions and early release versions are full of bugs and issues. Microsoft's Windows XP 64-bit Edition is being given out for free to those who already own Windwos XP Professional Edition. Why? Because they need people to test their product for bugs and errors. Remember Windows 95? At the beginning it had so many bugs and issues; it will be the same for Windows XP 64-bit edition. Why would Microsoft give you something for free? Answer is: They won't. 4. Microsoft is releasing their NEW operating system called "Longhorn" soon. This will be the true 64-bit Windows everyone will be using. Wait until then, Microsoft will have solved many of the bugs and issues associated with 64-bit enviroment by then. 5. AMD Athlon 64's true advantage is that it works with 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems. Just because you have a 64-bit compatible CPU, you don't have to upgrade to 64-bit Windows to use it. Windows XP Professional 64-bit Review by C|NET http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_XP_Professional_x64_edition/4505-3672_7-31346186-2.html 32-bit versus 64-bit http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-versus-Windows-or-32-bit-versus-64bit-1349.shtml Windows 64-bit Drivers Check list http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/kernel/64bit_chklist.mspx |
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Re: Benefits of 64-bit Windows XP?
From: imedia-ga on 11 Jul 2005 07:24 PDT |
If users do not accept a reasonable upgrade path software will not be ported to 64 bit as quickly as they should. The comments from xm177e2 are somewhat misleading and really do not illicit a great technical strategy. If we all followed their advice we would still be using 16-bit (or even 8-bit) DOS applications. Now for some educated advice from someone who has been using Windows XP 64 Bit Edition for some time now. Myth 1 (Drivers are rare) This has gone from truth to myth in the last 3 or 4 months. (Time is no excuse for xm177e2 because as of May there was decent support for 64 bit.) AMD provides an extensive list of drivers at: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/DevelopWithAMD/0,,30_%202252_869_875%5e10454,00.html?redir=IEGFC07 Myth 2 (You don't have any 64-bit applications) Well this is just down right embarrasing that the poster would say this. The fact is that you CAN'T have any 64 bit apps right now, how would they run on a 32 bit system. We can assume the misleading subtopic is in reference to the lack of quantity of 64 bit applications in the field. This is true, however this is no reason not to upgrade from a 32 bit operating system to a 64 bit operating system. AMD64 and the EM64T (intel) processor (that have both been out for almost a year now) are 'transitional' processors. They are intended to facilitate the transition of end users from a 32 bit platform to a 64 bit platform. Windows XP 64 bit edition supports BOTH 32 bit and 64 applications so that users can transition their application library slowly and sensibly. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/64bit/russel_exploringx64.mspx There are, however, 64 bit applications already in existance today and more are on the way. Internet Explorer is 64 bit, Mozilla (netscape) / Firefox is 64 bit (still in beta but slated for release soon). Game developers will quickly adopt the 64 bit market because of the mathamatical performance gains and the increased memory addressability. There is a performance hit to run a 32 bit application on a 64 bit version of windows, however it is transparent to the user and in most cases a minute difference that is not detectible to the user. http://www.devx.com/amd/Article/20342 The majority of the complaints I have heard in the field with 64 bit early adopters is related to video card driver performance slowing the system. Luckily with the RTM (Final Retail) release of Windows XP 64 Bit Edition many of these problems went away. Myth 3 (XP 64 Bit is in beta) Beta-versions and early release versions are full of bugs and issues Windows XP 64 Bit is available now. Microsoft provides free 'early adopter' versions of their software so that the development community can rev. their software for the new operating system so that once the OS is released for retail consumption there will be some cool apps available to use on it. Windows XP 64 bit edition is released and is NO LONGER a BETA product. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx Microsoft is allowing users of 64 bit hardware that have 32 bit versions of XP to upgrade and convert to the 64 bit version for free. Indstead of casting a negative light on this why can you not see this is a noble effort. They are allowing people that have already paid for a lesser version of XP to get the latest and greatest OS that was created specifically for their hardware and they are not going to charge the user for it. Now if Microsoft had charged for it 'xm177e2' would have bashed Microsoft for charging users to upgrade to the OS that they should have rightfully had when they bought the pc...but Microsoft held back to make sure the OS was stable before letting it out the door. 4. Microsoft is releasing their NEW operating system called "Longhorn" soon. This will be the true 64-bit Windows everyone will be using. Wait until then, Microsoft will have solved many of the bugs and issues associated with 64-bit enviroment by then. Longhorn will not be released until late 2006 possibly even in 2007. Longhorn is not an OS specifically designed to run at 64 bits whereas Windows XP 64 bit is specifically designed and engineered for a 64 bit platform. Longhorn is a complete OS rewrite including many technical advances that push the envelope of OS technology. Telling a user to avoid a 64 bit build of an existing OS that has aged well for the last 5 years is insane. |
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Re: Benefits of 64-bit Windows XP?
From: marvink-ga on 30 Sep 2005 14:05 PDT |
I recently tried switching to a XP Pro x64--and was horrified. xm177e2 was pretty much right on target--and still is on target 5 months later! 1. Drivers While there are drivers for most mainstream system components, support for printers and peripherals is still quite poor. For example, most HP printers either don't have drivers--or only have beta drivers: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lang=en&lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00365046&lang=en&cc=us . Microsoft, themselves, still do not have a working version of IntelliPoint or IntelliType (the mouse & keyboard will work, but wont have any advanced features). If you have other Microsoft hardware, you might be completely out of luck. They still don't have drivers for most of the other hardware they sell (fingerprint scanner, joystick, etc.)! You'll be fine if you have all mainstream hardware in your computer, but if you have some odd hardware or add-on devices, you might be out of luck. 2. The percent of hardware that works just fine is probably lower than 99%. Anti-virus is still a major problem. There are a few to choose from, including a free one from avast... but most vendors either don't make an x64 version yet or don't make home versions (ie: Symantec). The other programs that don't work well with X64 versions of Windows usually tie into the shell. For example, context menus for WinZip and other compression programs don't work (there is a sloppy workaround for WinRar). Microsoft's own Windows Media Player doesn't have regular shell functionality, so you cant use the taskbar toolbar view! Virtual CD drive software isn't there yet, either... the main vendors don't support x64. Some small vendors are trying to fill these various markets with their own software--but most of it is low quality, lacking features or unreliable. Yes, you can use a 64-bit version of Firefox or the 64-bit IE built in... and they'll work great as long as you don't need to tie into third party plugins. Have websites that use Flash? Forget it... you'll be back to your 32-bit web browser. It is no fun switching between web browsers every time you run into a site that uses flash. 3. Windows x64 isn't in beta--but with all the serious limitations with shell integration, anti-virus support, hardware drivers and lack of 64-bit applications it might feel like it sometimes. I don't think its a problem with the quality of Windows codebase, it has more to do with the fact you are trudging through territory that most software developers simply don't care about. 4. Vista (Longhorn) is still over a year away--and the maturity of the x64 platform will start to show. You can use XP x64 now and help put pressure on vendors to get things working now... and those who adopt with Vista will appreciate your efforts in making THEIR transition more painless. I hope you find your x64 transition pleasant and painless like imedia paints it out to be.. but based on my experiences and those of my peers, I suspect you've already ran into a lot of the challenges I've mentioned. Unless you like sorting through compatibility issues and trying new software, I'd hold off for Windows Vista. |
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Re: Benefits of 64-bit Windows XP?
From: lakoko-ga on 05 Oct 2005 17:45 PDT |
I have noticed that the more 32bit Software I installed on the system the slower the system goes. For example, Nero Express is running fine but when I switch to other programs from Nero Express the whole system acted up and need to wait around 30 seconds to 1 minute before I can switch to other programs. This does not happen when I was using 32bit Windows. Performance on games such as World of Warcraft does not make any difference in 64bit Windows. Firefox 32bit is slow at loading websites compared with 32bits Windows. If you are a tinker, sure go install Windows 64bit. But personally I am going back to Windows 32bit and wait until then... |
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