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How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
Category: Business and Money Asked by: money78492-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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13 Jul 2005 13:40 PDT
Expires: 12 Aug 2005 13:40 PDT Question ID: 543198 |
Hey there, this one is random: I need a list of the average mean income of solo practitioner attorneys and small law firms (under 3 partners) for each state in the USA. Most recent data. Thanks! | |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: waukon-ga on 14 Jul 2005 01:35 PDT |
A substantial number of American attorneys make very little money at all practicing law, and many law-school graduates follow alternate careers. Contrary to what you might think, most lawyers don't make that much money. But then, very smart thieves go to law school to learn how to legally steal. |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: money78492-ga on 14 Jul 2005 09:32 PDT |
I have been interviewing/selling to solo practitioners nationwide for 2 years. I know they don't make much. But some do, and I am prospecting by state. Thanks. |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: tutuzdad-ga on 14 Jul 2005 09:54 PDT |
How much a laywer makes depends on his reputation and how much time and effort he puts into his work. Some of them, for example, like to handle an occassional dog bite case just to keep up the appearances that they are practicing law. |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: money78492-ga on 14 Jul 2005 12:28 PDT |
Okay. You guy's aren't getting it. I need the exact dollar amount, preferably in a graph, of the exact income levels of all solo practioners, averaged and categorized by state. |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: tutuzdad-ga on 14 Jul 2005 12:36 PDT |
We "GET IT" alright. But your question is simply not answerable [probably for any amount of money]. There are too many variables to consider. |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: tutuzdad-ga on 14 Jul 2005 12:38 PDT |
You may need to put up some sizeable cash and hire yourself a market researcher. Those reports are typically quite expensive and well beyond what most researchers here can do. |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: research_help-ga on 14 Jul 2005 13:31 PDT |
Tutuzdad - The customer is offering $10 for this information. Are you saying this is not enough for a major market research project? Seriously, unless this information is already readily available by the US census, for example, but I doubt that it is, you are probably looking for research that typically costs $5,000-$10,000 from a professional market researcher depending on the level of detail you need. |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: mongolia-ga on 15 Jul 2005 16:57 PDT |
Dear Google Researchers With respect to the last comment (from research_help-ga ) , I have noticed that many market research questions in this forum go unanswered. If this information is held by Market Research companies who will only sell their reports for many thousands of dollars , then it is easy to understand why customers come to this forum looking for this type of information. Furthermore it is easy to understand why customers (such as money78492-ga) are unsuccessful in obtaining this information from Google Answers and go away dissapointed. The average Googler researcher would be very relucant to fork out thousands of dollars for these reports when the absolute maximum money a researcher is allowed to make a mere $350 per question. May I therefore propose a solution. Google researchers should lobby the Google Organization very hard to purchase these reports. (Although the amount of money for the average researcher or customer to buy these reports is huge , for Google it is absolute peanuts) Google would then give Google researchers access to the reports to allow them to answer questions such as the one proposed here. As the researcher would only use the reports to answer the specific questions asked by the questioner, there would be no issue of copyright. (The reseacher would thus use the reports to answer the question but would in no way quote directly from the reports) In this way everyone wins - The customer wins as they get precise information from well researched sources. - Google wins as both difficult questions and more questions are answered. (and the overall credibility of the service increases) - The Google researcher wins as they can now increase the number of questions they answer and earn the respect of their customers. :-) Have a nice day Mongolia |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: research_help-ga on 18 Jul 2005 06:16 PDT |
Mongolia - As a person who has spent years dealing with market research firms, there are a few points that I would like to point out to you regarding your last comment. 1) There are way too many market research firms and market research reports to collect all of them. For each specific industry, you may have dozens of firms producing hundreds or thousands of reports each year. 2) Even if you did collect a number of reports, you would not be allowed to take that information and sell it to others. It is the intellectual property of the research firm and cannot be sold to other third parties. When I buy a $5,000 report from a research firm, I cannot even technically share it with any of my coworkers because they would need to buy a license to have the report. |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: mongolia-ga on 22 Jul 2005 18:26 PDT |
research_help-ga Just my opinion. Having read your comment well at least I can say I have now been warned! So the next time I see that report about how much money lawyers make in Gary, Indiana then I will try and keep this REALLY important information to myself. On second thoughts should I wish to reveal it after couple of glasses too many, I am thinking what crime am I committing? And as I do not happen to reside in the US of A , could I be extradited there for this dastardly oversight?!. However on a more serious note. There are some implications of your comment which slightly disturb me. You say: >It is the intellectual property of the research firm and >cannot be sold to other third parties. When I buy a >$5,000 report from a research firm, I cannot even >technically share it with any of my coworkers because they >would need to buy a license to have the report. Are you really saying that information about the salaries of lawyers is restricted to the Research firms that compile reports about this information and a small bunch of overpaid executives who wish to keep this type of information to themselves so they can have an unfair knowledge of the marketplace? Please do not get me wrong. THE MARKET RESEARCH FIRMS WHO COMPILE THESE REPORTS DESERVE TO BE FAIRLY COMPENSATED FOR THEIR EFFORT. Just like authors of Books, Songwriters and Moviemakers, they deserve to be paid for their efforts and good and meaningful Copyright laws should help to make this happen. Where I disagree is that this information should be restricted to a group of rich people who can buy it by paying an exorbitant amount of money. The information should be AVAILABLE to anyone so long as they are prepared to pay a REASONABLE fee. By a REASONABLE fee I am talking about $50 to $300. Certainly not the thousands of dollars that these market research firms currently charge. (I also hope the Freedom of information act will help to extract some of this information from Market Research firms). This is why I think Google Answers may be an ideal forum for disseminating this type of information. It may to be fair involve the researcher paying a ?commission? to the Market Research Firm for extracting some piece of relevant Statistics. I am suggesting that these market Research Firms make their reports available to a wider audience and while the fee per customer may be less they should recuperate their costs on larger volumes. This presumably is how compilers of Encyclopedias make their money. As a general point, I find it amazing that perhaps a quarter of the planet can see photographs from the Surface of Mars in incredible detail, the latest photographs of the rings of Saturn in all their glory, a photograph from the surface of Titan within hours of it been taken and the result of a spacecraft problem colliding with a comet(as well as close up photographs of the comet as the spacecraft approached it) and YET something as mundane as the salaries of a bunch of lawyers is impossible to obtain. Seems to me we have lost our sense of priority. Just my opinion. Regards Mongolia |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: myoarin-ga on 23 Jul 2005 06:42 PDT |
Salve Mongolia-ga, It is really a question of the free market place. The market research firms do their work for a pretty select group of customers. On lawyers' income, say, for just one organization, or even on the speculation that they can sell it. But the market for that information is really quite small, so they have to charge what they can to those who really need it. I imagine that the contract when they sell it defines the extent to which the information can be revealed - to persons in the buyer's organization with the proviso that it can only be used within the organization and not passed to persons outside, a confidentiality clause like that in employment contracts. Market research information that has a much broader potential market, is sold for much less, just as you suggest, on the calculation that the volume of sales will provide an adequate return. Servus, Myoarin |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: research_help-ga on 25 Jul 2005 05:55 PDT |
Mongolia, I have an analogy for you which might show you the fault in your logic: Mercedes Benz makes some very nice automobiles. The luxury models are only owned by wealthy people because they are expensive. However, this is not fair! As you say, this car should be available to all people who want it. So, Mercedes Benz must lower their prices to make this car available to all people. And Google Answers should be able to buy this car at an even lower price and then rent it cheaply to its own customers. Now just substitute market research reports for the car and you have your own argument. |
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Re: How much $$$$ do lawyers make?
From: mongolia-ga on 25 Jul 2005 19:40 PDT |
Dia Dhuit Myoarin! Many thanks for your comment which has clarified my own thinking on this topic. To take an example: If I were a senior executive with a company I may wish to know some key marketing information. Because I have a vested interest in as few people having access to this type of information, then I may be prepared to pay a huge sum of money to a Market Research firm to supply me with this information. Further I would also sign a clause to keep ALL the information confidential which is contained in the report with the exception of a very few other senior executives in my company (who would sign the same clause). Now lets say through my own negligence the janitor picked up a copy of the report from my wastebasket and sent it to the local library who printed copies for use by the general public, Then I would fully expect to be sued for serious breach of contract. HOWEVER (and this is where I may be in disagreement with research_help-ga) , neither the janitor or local library would have done anything wrong. They have signed NO contract with the Market research firm and as the information is not classified military secrets and the information is in effect in the public domain both the janitor and library are free to disseminate the information. Go raibh mile a maith agat. Mongolia |
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