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Subject: Can't access previously password protected harddrive..
Category: Computers
Asked by: jonsor-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 01 May 2006 08:12 PDT
Expires: 31 May 2006 08:12 PDT
Question ID: 724383
Hi,

Hopefully you can help me with this problem.

I had a harddrive that was the primary harddrive on my computer.  I
was running XP w/ SP2 and it was password protected.  Then out of the
blue I saw smoke coming from the motherboard and quickly turned off
the computer.  Since I was thinking about upgrading anyways, I decided
to just build a brand new computer and make that existing harddrive a
slave on my new one.

So I built my new computer and made that previous harddrive a slave
and tried to access the folder under my login name and it said "access
denied."  Now I ran into a similar problem with a friend a long time
ago, but when he made his old harddrive a slave and tried to access it
it asked for a password, which of course didn't work when we entered
the password.  Strangely my situation, it never asked for a password,
it just said "access denied."

I've talked to my companies IT guy and he told me to try a few tricks.
 I've since tried these to no avail.  I created a new login/password
using the same name and password to see if I could "trick" it so I can
regain permissions/ownership.  That didn't work.

I also tried right clicking on the folder and went to the Security tab
to regain permissions there as well.

As I understand it, you can't just transfer a harddrive from one
computer to another since the motherboard/ram and all that is
different.  On the old computer, I'm not sure if it was the
motherboard or the ram or what caused the smoke to occurr.  If I can't
find the answer here then I guess the absolute last resort is I can
borrow some new ram or buy the same motherboard in hopes that it will
allow me to boot up so I can get rid of that damn password protection.
 But that's alot of trouble so...

I'm wondering if anyone else has any other ideas or know of a 3rd
party program that will let me by-pass the password protection.

Thanks alot.

- Jonathan

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 01 May 2006 11:54 PDT
jonsor...

It's not crystal clear, from what you've said, if the harddrive
itself was passworded, or just some, or all, of the folders on
the drive.

But you did say you could see the folder and click on it, so 
presumably it's just the folders. In that case, r-clicking on
the folder and resetting the permissions so that 'Everyone'
has full control should do the trick. If Everyone is not a
displayed option, you can add it by clicking on Advanced,
and then setting Everyone to have full control. You don't 
say much about what happened when you attempted to reset the
permissions, but knowing what problems you encounter would be
helpful.

RAM, the motherboard, and other hardware are only an issue if
you're attempting to use the drive as the master. As a slave
these are not relevant to its functioning.

If resetting permissions is not successful, you might be able
to access the folder and files by using a 3rd party program
like Bart PE to boot up from a CD and access the files that
way:

Bart PE
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

Let me know where this takes you...

sublime1-ga

Request for Question Clarification by maniac-ga on 01 May 2006 20:49 PDT
Hello Jonsor,

Did you protect (or encrypt) the folder using the method described at
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/sag_seconceptsunencrypt.mspx?mfr=true

If so, did you back up the private key as described at
  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241201

If yes to the first and no to the second, it may be that you need to
boot off of that old disk, decrypt the folder, shut down & then reboot
with your new system / system disk. Othewise, please explain how you
set up the password protection on your old system.

Thanks.
  --Maniac

Clarification of Question by jonsor-ga on 01 May 2006 21:09 PDT
Hi again sublime1-ga,

You helped me with my last computer problem so hopefully we can figure
this one out.

The password that was setup is the basic one you setup in Windows XP
Control panel -> User Accounts and set the Admin up with a password so
that when you turn on the computer, it asks for a password (sorry it
was incorrect of me to specify the entire harddrive was inaccessible).
 That's why on my slave drive right now that I'm trying to access,
it's the c:\documents and settings\Jon folder that I can't access. 
Double clicking on the folder simply gives me an "access denied"
prompt.

I was rather vague about trying to reset permissions before because
the company I work for, the IT person gave me this complicated process
of trying to regain permissions and I sort of don't remember all the
steps he said.  But after doing it it didn't work.

But right clicking on the "Jon" folder itself and going to "local
sharing and security" and "network sharing and security."  For the
first one, I get a window that has "local sharing and security" where
I'm able to share this folder (but when I click on it, I just get a
generic window that with "Shared music, shared pictures, shared video"
with nothing inside (since I never stored anything in there).  On the
one speciied with Network it deals with remote access.  There is no
advance tab at all.  Can you clarify what you said about resetting
permissions, I'm unable to access any window that allows me to set
permissions.

I tried that program  the program you suggested and altho it allows me
to boot up using that disk, I can't access any of hard drives.  I did
a checkdisk but other than a "GO" icon in the bottom right hand
corner, I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to do.

I'm currently running MS XP Professional 2002 w/ SP2.  I don't recall
which version I had for the other harddrive (the current slave)
whether it was Home Edition or Professional.  Not sure if that makes a
difference, but I figure more information couldn't hurt.  Thanks.

Clarification of Question by jonsor-ga on 01 May 2006 21:15 PDT
Sorry forgot to respond to pushkarsharma-ga:

Thanks for your tip.  I installed the program and went to Object ->
Drive and selected the drive I wanted to recover.  Looking at the Root
directory that it brought it, I can see Documents and Settings but
there are no other folders within there.  Since I want to access the
"Jon" folder within Doc and Settings, it doesn't look like it's going
to work unless I'm doing something wrong.  Let me know and thanks for
your reply.

maniac-ga:

Thanks for your reply.  I didn't encrypt individual folders within
windows.  Rather, I just setup an admin account for Jon, so during
each boot up, I would have to enter my name and password like any
other networked computer.  Other than that, I didn't do anything
password or encryption related.  Any other ideas?

Appreciate the ideas guys!  

- Jonathan

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 05 May 2006 20:30 PDT
jonsor...

Sorry for the delay in responding.

I'm using Windows 2000, and I understand they may have changed
the security functions in Xp. If I r-click on a folder and select
Properties, I get a window with 2 tabs, one of which is Security,
which offers me the option of assigning access permissions to 
All Users, Everyone, Administrators, System, etc., and I can
then assign various levels of Permissions to each of those groups.
Assigning all permissions to Everyone should do the trick for you,
if you only had a similar interface, but perhaps XP is different.

As for Bart PE, YES! Click the Go button and navigate to the A43
program, which is equivalent to Windows Explorer, and you should
be able to access folders and files in spite of Windows restrictions
(I'm pretty sure). If not, you can try to reset the permissions from
that interface, and see if that gets you in. I seem to remember doing
that.

I also found another post where someone used ExplorerXP running under
Bart PE, and it had no problem with permissions, even when A43 did:
http://www.explorerxp.com/

Let me know where this takes you...

sublime1-ga

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 05 May 2006 20:33 PDT
Oh! and here's a page from Microsoft which tells you how to change
the folder permissions in XP. It sounds pretty similar to mine, and
it also has a link for what to do if you don't see a Security tab:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308418#E0DC0ACAAA

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 18 May 2006 01:44 PDT
Perhaps you could post a clarification regarding the value
of my responses to your question.

sublime1-ga
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Subject: Re: Can't access previously password protected harddrive..
From: pushkarsharma-ga on 01 May 2006 14:30 PDT
 
hi jonsor

I was thinking about problem you are facing. All the things are fine
and recoverable. As I know about my knowledge this thing can be solved
by a file recovery softare. Here is the link for download third party
software named PC Inspector File Recovery.

http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/uk/download.htm

I hope this software will remove all of your problems, or if in case
it won't let me know about it.

Pushkar
Subject: Re: Can't access previously password protected harddrive..
From: jbirman4-ga on 10 May 2006 15:13 PDT
 
Hi,

I've had the same problem and resolved it quite easily, using a
microsoft command you need to download (I can't remember where from
though, but I'm sure Google will find it easily enough).

It is a called "subinacl"

Download subinacl to C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kit\Tools\
then you need to run the following command line:

C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kit\Tools\subinacl /subdirectories
"X:\*.* /grant=NAME=F

"" and *.* INCLUDED and all on the same line
where X is the hard drive you want to "unprotect" and NAME your
present windows username.

I hope you will find this usefull

JBirman4
Subject: Re: Can't access previously password protected harddrive..
From: vargagirl1-ga on 17 May 2006 19:55 PDT
 
Jonsor.....

I Have the exact same problem....
What worked for you???

Thanks!

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