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Q: Does Strattera(Atomoxetine) or AmbienCR 12.5mg(Zolpidem) show up on urine tests? ( No Answer,   1 Comment )
Subject: Does Strattera(Atomoxetine) or AmbienCR 12.5mg(Zolpidem) show up on urine tests?
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: mike0212-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 12 Aug 2006 21:34 PDT
Expires: 11 Sep 2006 21:34 PDT
Question ID: 755445
I'm a pilot about to get a new job which requires a drug test.
According to the FAA you can't act as PIC(pilot in command with these
drugs in your system. Both drugs are pretty harmless and unless you
take an ambien and go fly or you get really drowsy from strattera
(which you wouldn't be taken in the first place if this were the
case), this is ridiculous.  I'm litterally 10 times as rested and
focused on these drugs.  There are two types of urine tests.

Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash) 
Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine) 
Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed) 
Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine) 
Phencyclidine (PCP

an expanded test tests for 

Barbiturates (Phenobarbital, Secobarbitol, Butalbital) 
Hydrocodone (Lortab, Vicodin) 
Methaqualone (Qualuudes) 
Benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax, Librium, Serax, Rohypnol) 
Propoxyphene (Darvon compounds) 
Ethanol (Alcohol) 
MDMA (Ecstacy)

Does anyone know if ambien/strattera fit into any of these categories
or if they would show up as any of these drugs. And for how long would
they stay in your urine. Also if you find any information on
adderall,ritalin,concerta and urine testing let me know.
There is no answer at this time.

Subject: Re: Does Strattera(Atomoxetine) or AmbienCR 12.5mg(Zolpidem) show up on urine tests?
From: beetle2-ga on 13 Aug 2006 19:11 PDT
Not on these tests.  If a toxicology lab was asked to look for these
one could cook up a method to find it.  But that is not what the two
test panels you say you will be subject to are asking for.  Therefore
the testing can only look for those drugs.  Since your test is being
administered for the FAA it is most surely performed by a NIDA
certified laboratory.  Your sample will be initially screened.  If
this shows it to be negative it is certified as negative.  If positive
it goes on to a more rigorous confirmation test by gc/ms.  There are
reasons for some compounds to screen positive without being the one in
question.  This actually happens infrequently but it will never happen
with gc/ms.  The gc/ms methodology looks for the specific drug
molecule or often a metabolite that your body creates of it.  This is
a molecule totally unique to the one drug.  Not a class of drugs, the
drug itself.  When ran on gc/ms each molecule has a specific
fragmentation pattern.  There is no ambiguity.  So the ultimate
question is: is Strattera or Ambien one of the specific molecules
looked for in a gc/ms confirmation on the two test panels you referred
to?  The answer is no.  Do they fit into these categories?  Not
according to NIDA.  Are they similar enough to any of these drugs in
any way to fail a screening?  I doubt it.  But even if they were you
can have total faith in gc/ms confirmation.

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