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Subject: solar system chart showing the location of planets at time of birth
Category: Science > Astronomy
Asked by: vicky7-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 09 Oct 2003 20:50 PDT
Expires: 08 Nov 2003 19:50 PST
Question ID: 264802
Howdy google answers!  Okay here is the scoop.  Does a web site exist
enabling a person to plot the degree location of the each planet at
the time of birth and be able to print it out on an 8 1/2 by 11 piece
of paper?  I want an actual, I guess the term would be solar system,
chart/map which would show the location of each planet in relation to
each other at a specific date and time and be able to print it.  Hope
that makes sense! Many thanks! Not sure if I am picking the right
categories, sorry if I did not.
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Subject: Re: solar system chart showing the location of planets at time of birth
Answered By: pafalafa-ga on 10 Oct 2003 11:10 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello vicky7-ga,

I've found just what you're looking for at this site:


http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Solar


It is an interactive sky map of the solar system showing images of all
the planets in relation to each other at any date and time of your
choosing.

The site is home to a number of cool pages and programs that are
simply things of interest to the author.  The introduction to the
solar system map is given here:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/solar/

"Welcome to Solar System Live, the interactive Orrery of the Web. You
can view the entire Solar System, or just the inner planets (through
the orbit of Mars). Controls allow you to set time and date,
viewpoint, observing location, orbital elements to track an asteroid
or comet, and a variety of other parameters. Click on the title of any
control to display a help page explaining it, or go directly to the
help table of contents. You can compose a request with custom settings
and save the results in your browser's hotlist or bookmark table,
allowing direct access to Solar System Live with all the controls
preset to your own preferences."

[In case your not familiar with the term, an "orrery" is one of those
great old scientific instruments that show all the planets and the sun
in relation to each other...in the best of instruments, all the
planets will move in synch with each other to show their passage over
time]



Make sure to familiarize yourself with some of the other tools at this
site, such as the "Your Sky" program to make star maps, as they may be
of interest as well.

Back to the Orrery page at:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Solar

To set it to the date of your choosing, just replace the current date
and time, with a new date and time in the same format
(Year--month--day e.g.  2003-05-26 for May 26, 2003).

Choose "icons" if you want the planets to appear as
astronomical/astrological symbols, or "images" if you prefer
mini-pictures of the planets.

The "size" box controls the size of picutre that is returned...maximum
size is 1024, but I found 512 to give a nice-sized result (you can
pick a larger number for a larger image, but if you go all the way to
1024 it will no longer fit on an 8x10).

I don't think you'll need the other options, but if you have any
questions about them, just ask here by posting a Request for
Clarification, and I'll be happy to assist you with them.

As for printing the image, that's easy, but it also depends on the
particulars of your computer system.  If you're in a Windows-based
system, you can right-click on the image and select "Print" from the
pull-down menu.  Or, you can click on "File" in your toolbar (at the
very top left-hand corner of the window) and select "Print" from the
menu there.

Again, if you have any questions about this, just let me know and I'll
be glad to walk you through the printing process.

I hope this is exactly what you were looking for, but if for some
reason it doesn't quite meet your needs, give me a bit more detail
about what you're after, and I'll do my best to track it down for you.

Have fun exploring the solar system.

pafalafa-ga

search strategy:  Google search on [ "solar system" chart date planet
position]

Request for Answer Clarification by vicky7-ga on 10 Oct 2003 14:51 PDT
Great info.  I knew if I asked you "guys" I could save myself alot of
research. Now as a clarification.  My ephemeris has somewhat different
degrees.  Is there a way to get the same type of map, but key in all
of my own information. ie - Sun at 23degrees, Mercury 23degrees,Pluto
28degrees, etc. Many thanks!

Clarification of Answer by pafalafa-ga on 10 Oct 2003 15:59 PDT
Hey Vicky,

Glad you liked this...it's a neat site.

I'm going to look around a bit more regarding your ephemeris question.
 I don't see an easy way to do what you want on the fourmilab site,
but...there may be another solution.

One thing you might want to look into is the initial observer
position...where on the earth you are when observing the planets. 
These latitutde/longitude settings affect the final ephemeris data. 
That is, the way the planets appear in the sky depends an awful lot on
whether you're looking at the sky in my hometown of Washington DC, or
from Sydney, Australia, or from another place on earth.  A bit of an
explanation for this can be seen here:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/solar/help/site.html

Try adjusting the lat/long to account for your initial position, and
see if that brings the numbers more in line with what you're looking
for.  You can get lat/longs for most cities around the world here:

http://www.bcca.org/misc/qiblih/latlong.html

Just click on the country of interest, and take it away.  Let me know
if you need any help finding lat/long coordinates.

I'm still going to look into the ephemeris matter in more detail.  I
suspect you might have to actually download a sky-mapping program
(many of which are free) to get at this, but I need to check into it. 
I'll update you here when I have more info available.

In the mean time, give the lat/longs a try, and let me know how that
works out.

Cheers.

pafalafa-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by vicky7-ga on 13 Oct 2003 15:04 PDT
Hi pafalafa-ga.  Okay, I know it is none of my business, but what does
your name mean?!? Only kidding, okay, not really, just curious. 
Anyway I am messing with the lats and longs.  I use The American
Ephemeris for the 20th Century, revised fifth edition, by Neil F.
Michelsen.  I am trying to get my map to coincide with the degrees in
the book..  I have read the introduction, but must admit it is a bit
out of my league.  So if you come up with another solution, let me
know.  I sooooooo appreciate the original answer and the info has been
a blast to work with.  Many thanks!!! vicky7

Clarification of Answer by pafalafa-ga on 13 Oct 2003 16:04 PDT
Wow, Vicky.  Thanks so much for...for...everything!  It's a pleasure
working with you, and I'm going to continue working on this one to see
if I can come up with additional info to help you out.

Here's a few tidbits, thoughts, and such:

--pafalafa-ga is my mis-remembering of the title of an old, quirky
song.  You're not the first to ask, by the way.  Take a look at the
comment at the bottom of this question:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=183740

and at this entire question:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=219111

if you want to know a bit more.

--I don't think there is a program to do just what you're after --
allow input of ephemeris to produce a plot of the planets.  However,
I've emailed the author of Solar System Live to ask him -- I'll let
you know what I hear back.

--I'm going to see if I can find a copy of American Ephemeris to find
a way to get data and sky pictures to match up.

--In the mean time, if you want to post the relevant ephemeris here
for the planets, I'll see if I can work with SSL to get it to match
up.

--If there's anything else you'd like me to look into, just let me
know here with a follow up comment, and I'm happy to oblige.

Again, very nice working with you.  Hope we'll have a chance again,
one of these days.

paf

Clarification of Answer by pafalafa-ga on 14 Oct 2003 16:58 PDT
Hey Vicky,

Just wanted to let you know that I heard back from a fellow at NASA
(Jet Propulsion Laboratory) who tells me that they don't have the
capability in their systems to work backwards from ephemeris data to
planet positions (who woulda thunk it so hard...?).

Haven't heard yet from the Fourmilab guy...I'll let you know if
anything turns up.

paf
vicky7-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $50.00
Awesome and super fast response time as usual!!! I love this
service!!! Thanks much pafalafa-ga

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