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Subject:
Searching the Internet
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: mattjasonh-ga List Price: $2.50 |
Posted:
11 Jan 2004 07:09 PST
Expires: 10 Feb 2004 07:09 PST Question ID: 295268 |
Why has searching the internet become a more progressively stressful experience in the past 2 years, so much so that internet users are willing to pay untrained researchers, often to the tune of over $100, just to avoid the stress of finding an answer to an often, from a research point of view, simple question? | |
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Subject:
Re: Searching the Internet
Answered By: read2live-ga on 11 Jan 2004 10:16 PST |
Hi, Matt, I would argue several of your points. For instance, I don't know that "searching the internet become a more progressively stressful experience in the past 2 years". It always has been stressful, it always has been hard work. Searching may even have got easier: the advanced search facilities of many search engines today takes all the hassle out of the complicated syntax needed for advanced searches. It may have got harder: as the volume of information on the internet increases and as the search engines get better at finding and indexing it, so it may be harder to find any one strand, or combination of strands of information. I don't think Google Researchers, if it is Google Researchers you are referring to here, are untrained. They may sometimes lack formal training and qualifications in internet searching, they may be self-taught and their areas of expertise may be specific rather than general (but so may be the areas of expertise of professional searchers), but the screening process used in recruitment of Google Researchers does make sure that Researchers have search and reference and answer skills. No-one said searching the internet is easy, and it is a mistake to think it is. Nor are all answers to be found on the internet. Many amateurs may miss out on the best information, many are too easily satisfied by the first answer they get: "Most people think they do a pretty good job searching the Web - because they never know what they?re missing." Mary-Ellen Mort: "The Info Pro?s Survival Guide to Job Hunting," Searcher 10 (7), July/August 2002 <http://www.infotoday.com/searcher/jul02/mort.htm> General search engines satisfy the general searcher. "Remember that the search engines are designed first and foremost for the general searcher, the one who enters a few words and hopes to get one moderately good answer, or at least an interesting site that will distract from the original information request." Greg R Notess: "On The Net - Unusual Power Web Searching Commands," Online, Nov/Dec 2003 <http://www.infotoday.com/online/nov03/OnTheNet.shtml> Above all, searching takes time. I would suggest that those $100 questions are not as easy as they look, if they were then the searcher would have found his/ her answer. They are more complicated, they take time, they involve multiple search in not so obvious places. The searcher may not have that time, may not have that expertise, may not have the background knowledge to know which avenues of search to pursue and which to discard, may be too easily distracted. "The Web is a procrastination apparatus: It can absorb as much time as is required to ensure that you won't get any real work done." Jakob Nielsen: "Information Pollution," Alertbox, August 11, 2003. <http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030811.html> Finally, I would suggest there are no dumb questions. If the inquirer does not know, then the inquirer does not know, and the question is real (however easy to someone else who does know where or how to look for the answer). Take that notion and throw in the time factor, and it becomes a matter of market value: how much is having the answer worth? I did say finally, but I have an extra thought. Don't forget the Google Answers community, those comments and asides and, so often, the common working together to make sure the inquirer gets an answer that satisfies all round: there is added value there, often worth far more than the basic answer. No search strategy to share, I'm afraid, just some of the sceptical comments I've collected recently. Hope this answer satisfies, but if not, please ask for clarification before giving a rating. Best, r2l |
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Re: Searching the Internet
From: bowler-ga on 11 Jan 2004 13:28 PST |
I have often asked the same question especially since individuals public library has trained professionals already on staff and willing to answer your question for free. However, I can understand the willingness for people to pay another these amounts of money to do a search. First, just because the internet is there and someone has access to it doesn't mean that they will instinctively know how to search it. I come across people every day that have no clue how to search the internet. The search terms are either too broad or too specific or they simply search for the wrong thing. Secondly, people use this service as they would say a temp service. They simply don't have the time or have too many questions and wish to farm out the research. I've read a few questions that the user has stated that to obtain the amount of research they received would have literally cost them thousands of dollars. Lastly, today's society we pay everyone to do things for us. Nobody washes their own car any more for example. They sell peanut butter and jelly in a sigle jar, and every type of food premade. It is simply a convenience to have someone else do things for you. But I must refute your statement that the researchers, at least at this service, being unqualified. There are many excellent researchers who provide excellent research for a very cheap price. Read this comparison between Google Answers Researchers and librarians at Cornell University: http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2003_09_19_index.html Actual test: http://www.library.cornell.edu/iris/research/google/google-ratings-table.pdf Just a few thoughts. Bowler-ga |
Subject:
Re: Searching the Internet
From: apteryx-ga on 11 Jan 2004 13:34 PST |
Hi, mattjasonh-- I'd like to comment on your question if I may. As a frequent user of GA, I post questions in two categories: relatively serious and relatively frivolous. The classifications are entirely subjective: they have to do not with the content of the question itself but with how badly I want to know and why. For instance, my question about the leather purse (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=214602) was serious because I really, really wanted to find it (and did). My question about commas in the time of Swift (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=262925) was frivolous because it was a matter of pure curiosity and was posted mainly for entertainment; and yet it also shed light peripherally on a topic of professional interest to me. I figured that one would be fun for the researchers as well as for me. (A number of researchers have said they enjoy my questions.) The rate I offer, at which I arrive by a highly idiosyncratic computation that I won't explain, typically reflects the degree of seriousness to me as well as how easily obtainable I expect the answer to be. As a check on my calculation, I usually relate it to the cost of a pizza. As I remarked recently (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=292826), my QSH (curiosity hormone) tends to run high and I am interested in a lot of obscure things, so I use GA as a plaything as much as anything. One question invariably leads to another. You ought to see all the stuff I *don't* post because I can find it on my own. I typically post a question after I have done a fair amount of searching myself. "Fair amount" varies, depending on how curious (or serious) I am and how much time I can afford right then. I am most likely to post a query when I get way, way too many hits on my own and/or can't think of ways to zero in on the answer; for instance, searching on "the" (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=290807) was going to be hopeless. GA researchers are skilled at choosing search terms that help eliminate irrelevant results. Much more important to me, GA researchers represent a broad spectrum of fields with their individual knowledge and expertise. I don't know how you can say "untrained researchers" when some of these people are professionals or gifted amateurs in fields as diverse as cooking, medicine, eastern religions, criminal justice, out-of-print books, and classical languages. By virtue of their own knowledge they can move more rapidly and in a more direct line to an answer than I could do on my own--just as I could do if you asked me a question in my own areas of specialty. And they also have some favorite resources and techniques that they have accumulated or devised over time and that I would not acquire unless I too spent hours and hours at it every week. Although I don't know the behind-the-scenes mechanisms for GA researchers to pick up questions to which they want to respond, I know it is self-selecting in that researchers can choose to answer questions on subjects on which they are already knowledgeable, so it is not the case that a randomly assigned researcher has to start cold in an area in which he or she is as ill-versed as the questioner. Finally, it is not as if the answer to a question had to come from one and only one source and the task were to locate that one source. For most subjects, there may be a wealth of material, and it is necessary only to fine *enough* information to answer the question and not necessarily to find *all* the information that exists about the question. That is where the researcher's judgment and discretion come in, and that is the other thing I pay for. I think you'll agree that that is worth something in itself if you'll look here: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=191590 for Pinkfreud's answer and the comments of some of her colleagues on the question of the quality of information offered by researchers. So I do not agree that the process of searching has become more stressful. I has become more complex, probably simply because of the increase in number of sites on every imaginable subject. That's one reason to call upon people who are good at it--and fast. Often someone claims a question of mine in less than five minutes after posting. But don't discount the entertainment value, which includes interaction with the intelligent, fascinating, multidimensional, and often quirky personalities that make up this community. I could spend a lot more per hour of enjoyment at a movie theater or a bar and get a whole lot less back. Couldn't you? Apteryx GA customer since June of 2002 |
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