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For Omnivorous, please!
Category: Science > Technology Asked by: probonopublico-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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22 Feb 2004 01:04 PST
Expires: 23 Mar 2004 01:04 PST Question ID: 309429 |
Hi, Omni I hope that this will prove to be a cinch for you. According to David Kahn (The Codebreakers), whenever Roosevelt was communicating with his ambassadors in London, Paris and Moscow on ?matters of utmost secrecy?, he used the Navy Department?s cryptosystems. Kahn also quotes Churchill as saying: QUOTE I sent my cables to the American Embassy in London which was in direct touch with the President at the White House through special coding machines. UNQUOTE Kahn surmises that these machines were ?naval? and ?probably one-time tape devices manufactured by the Teletype Corporation?. Can you get a fix on whether the machines were 'one-time tape devices manufactured by Teletype Corporation'? More importantly, whoever the manufacturer, when were they introduced and did they use 'one-time' encryption? Have a great day! Bryan | |
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Re: For Omnivorous, please!
Answered By: omnivorous-ga on 24 Feb 2004 07:11 PST Rated: |
Bryan -- Aha -- that explains the dual copyright on my American version of the book. St. Ermin's Press published it in 1998, probably in the U.K., and then Fromm International published it here in 1999. I'm surprised that the information on Telekrypton and Rockex met your needs for this question. But pleasantly surprised! My librarian tells me that a book published in 2000 on the OSS and CIA discusses the use of one-time encryption pads by field agents as early as World War II: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385492936/103-1794680-7669421?v=glance I will be checking it today and report back. However, I'm also going to have to write notes to all of the Roald Dahl fansites to let them know that he wrote something more substantial than "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory." Best regards, Omnivorous-GA | |
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Hi, Again, Omni Once again you make it look so easy! Many thanks. Warmest regards Bryan |
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Re: For Omnivorous, please!
From: fp-ga on 23 Feb 2004 22:22 PST |
Well, there seem to be two copies of the book called "British Security Coordination: The Secret History of British Intelligence in the Americas, 1940-45" in the British Library: Title: British Security Coordination. the secret history of British intelligence in the Americas, 1940-45. introduction by Nigel West Organisation name: British Security Coordination Subject: British Security Coordination Subject: World War, 1939-1945. Secret service. Great Britain Subject: Espionage, British. United States. History. 20th century Publication details: London. St Ermin's. 1998 Description: xxxvi,536p. facsims,map. 24cm ISBN: 0316644641. m Shelfmark: YC.1998.b.4155 Notes: Includes index Notes: Prepared by British Security Coordination officers in 1945 Title: British Security Coordination. the secret history of British intelligence in the Americas, 1940-45. introduction by Nigel West Organisation name: British Security Coordination Subject: British Security Coordination Subject: World War, 1939-1945. Secret service. Great Britain Subject: Espionage, British. United States. History. 20th century Place of Publication: London. Publisher Name: St Ermin's. Date of Publication: 1998 Description: xxxvi,536p. facsims,map. 24cm ISBN: 0316644641. m Shelfmark: 99/25540 Notes: Includes index Notes: Prepared by British Security Coordination officers in 1945 http://blpc.bl.uk/ |
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Re: For Omnivorous, please!
From: fp-ga on 23 Feb 2004 22:39 PST |
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316644641/202-7244077-5862229 |
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Re: For Omnivorous, please!
From: probonopublico-ga on 23 Feb 2004 23:21 PST |
Hi, Freddy Great stuff, again, many thanks. However, I am surprised that you and your boys didn't locate the third copy sitting on a shelf in my own library. (Shelfmark: TopSecretStuff) Or, were you simply being discreet? Warmest regards Bryan |
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Re: onetime pad between Roosevelt and Churchill
From: wwg-ga on 29 Jun 2004 09:36 PDT |
The *one time pad seems to have been first used by a government in 1919, shortly after it was invented by *Vernam (though later improved by *Mauborgne) when the new Weimar Republic Foreign Office adopted it for some traffic. It began to be used by the Soviets sometime in the late 20s or early 30s in response to two incidents of UK politicians publishing information which made clear that Soviet encrypted messages had been read by UK crypto folk. The people at *GC&CS were not happy with their political masters actions, it is said. During WWII, FDR and WC communicated using encrypted telephone circuits many times. The encryption was at first a frequency band swap system developed at *Bell Labs. The Germans were able to decrypt that and overheard it all -- one of the German technicians had apparently worked at Bell Labs before the War and was familiar with the system. Later on, another Bell Labs encryption system (called by the US crypto people (or the Army who liked names like this) *SIGSALY) was used to encrypt FDR-WC radio telephone calls. It was a one time pad and worked using large phonograph records with noise on them. At the sending end the record was started, FDR (or WC) started talking, and the two signals were electrically combined. At the receiving end, the record was synchronized, electrically subtracted from the received signal, and passed on to WC (or FDR). The Germans invented some teleprinter cyphers (very much in the spirit of Vernam's original idea) during the War; they were approximations of the one time pad in the sense that the 'key material' used was not entirely random as is required, but only almost random (mechanically generated by a complex rotor arrangement). The British at *Bletchley Park called them, collectively, the *Fish cyphers. One of the them, by Lorenz Electric, called *tunny at BP, was used for important stuff the BP folk wanted badly to read. The *Colossus (in two versions) was invented by *Max Newman and colleagues of BP to help with decrypting the Fish traffic, specifically tunny. It was the world's first programmable, electronic, digital computer. And it worked. A good portion of the tunny traffic was eventually being read at BP by War's end. All of the names marked with '*' here are the subject of articles in the Wikipeida (wikipedia.org), which has an active group contributing to cryptography related articles. You might wish to look into them. As well, you might want to consult Battle of Wits by Budiansky which is a responsible book (there are many which are not) on the specific subject of WWII cryptography. Best of wishes on your interest in crypto. wwg-ga |
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Re: For Omnivorous, please!
From: probonopublico-ga on 29 Jun 2004 10:33 PDT |
Hi, wwg Very many thanks for your interesting & informative Comment. Have you any ideas on: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=367133 Kindest regards Bryan |
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