what's the connection between the monkey and the human

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Request for Question Clarification by mvguy-ga on 27 Feb 2004 22:55 PST

What kind of answer are you looking for? A philosophical one? A
scientific one? A theological one?

In short: They have the same ancestors.

Scriptor

Sorry Scriptor, your thinking like an evolutionist. The theory is not
proved. There is one tremendous difference between man and monkey. Man
is aware of what may happen in the future. He is aware of his own
mortality. This is backed up by the Bible. Ecclesiastes 9;5 says " The
living are conscious that they will die. But as for the dead, they are
conscious of nothing at all. When we lose, through death, someone we
love, many years can pass before the grief eases, if at all. We never
forget them. When a mother monkey loses its offspring to death, she
seems to grieve for a short while and carries the dead body for a
while, but then loses interest, usually because she is distracted by a
food source or the attentions of a male. In many cases he killed the
youngster himself. In Genesis, the Bible clearly states that animals
were created BEFORE Man. One of Adam`s jobs was to name the animals.
Its there in black and white and I`m dead keen to hear from anyone who
has read the Bible to show me a copy where it says otherwise. Happy
studies!

Dear pugwashjw,

Unfortunately, the Bible is nothing but a collection of ancient
stories. Not more, and not less. Just because a notable number of
persons considers the Bible a holy book, it's not autmatically a book
of truth. Grimm's Fairy Tales are not truth, either.
Reason is the only measure for gaining and evaluating knowledge. The
Bible is not reason, it's mythology. Thus, the Bible is worthless for
science.

Best regards,
Scriptor

Here's an excellent diagram showing the branching of the evolution of
primates, indicating that monkeys and humans separated far back on the
evolutionary tree:
http://members.aol.com/darwinpage/intro1.htm

As you'll see, genetically chimpanzees are more-closely related to
humans than most species of monkeys.

Google search strategy:
evolution + humans + monkeys + diagram

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Without trying to get overly religious here...

No, the theory is not proven, pugwashjw-ga. That is why it's only a theory.

However, the same thinking could be applied to God.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c018.html

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c029.html

Dear newbie2004-GA,
Neither pugwashjw-GA, nor scriptor-GA are "wrong", although
pugwashjw-GA has a hard time understanding that there is no "argument"
needed or valid, concerning this question.  I personally like the
encouragement of humility I feel, reading Shakespeare's line:
"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are
accounted for by your philosophy."
The Joy, and Parental Love possible, in our relationship with the
Living God, are beyond mere "comprehension", and certainly beyond
words, like "evolutionist", and "mythology".
As a beaten man once said, "Can't we all just get along?"  Ha, ha, ha,
ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!
Just kidding. I love this give-and-take.  
Comment #7, at this URL, might interest you:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=288814
Also, comment #3, at URL:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=236862

If you want a real mind-blower, try comment #2, at URL:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=225873

Love To All,
trueparent-GA

For Scriptor, with deep respect. Every single person has a right to
their view or opinion, and I would not change that for quids. Thats
why even God gave us free will, which got us into trouble in the first
place. Without it we are only robots. There was a time when even I
believed in evolution, until someone showed me all the information
that the Bible had to offer. Apart from that, how could a book that
states that love of fellow man will solve all our fights and wars, be
" just a myth" . Granted it was written by forty or so writers over a
very long period of time,16 centuries,  but the mind boggles as to its
continuing common theme. The Bible states that God IS love and that
love will solve our problems. The world situation right now does not
show any. The purpose of the bible is to show, by example, what
benefits can flow by listening to its advice. When the early Hebrews
went against God`s wishes, they were punished. A good example was
their 70 years of captivity in Babylon. Only the offspring of the
original "sinners" were released [ through the actions of
Cyrus][Isaiah 45;1] and were able to return to their homeland. Cyrus ,
who was a powerful king in his day and not a Hebrew, is named in the
Bible as the means by which God would release HIS people.[ Isaiah
45;4] I do ask the question. If the Bible is just a collection of
myths, by what means does God talk to us. Certainly not through the
mainline organised religious groups now in existence, who are more
interested in politics. If God is not speaking to us all through the
Bible, and I do not believe that for one moment, then our future is
very bleak indeed.

for Trueparent. I looked up the url`s and comment 2 i.d. 225873 stated
that people had physical and spiritual "parts" and that animals had
only physical [part/s]. How come my Bible at Ecclesiastes 3;19 says "
For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an
eventuality as respects the beast [ animal/fish/bird/etc] AND THEY
HAVE THE SAME EVENTUALITY. As the one dies, so the other dies, and
they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the
man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20. All are going to one
place. They have all come to be from the dust and they are all
returning to the dust". So again, Trueparent, with deep respect, what
is the basis for your information. The above scripture points to the
fact that there is no "separate" spiritual part of us , BUT we are a
complete living unit, thinking and breathing, and that when we die, we
cease to exist. Ecclesiastes 9;5,6. Proof in writing that ghosts do
not exist, but does not deny the future resurrection. If we did not
possess the Bible, we would have no information about God or his
purpose for us and we would be little more than ordinary animals.
Looking forward to any future comments.

Hello everyone, 

Newbie2004 put this question in the Category of "Science>Biology". 
Therefore, a biological answer is what is appropriate.  Dear
pugwashjw, whatever its merits, the Bible is not a modern scientific
text and not a reasonable source to answer a science question in
Google. Like it or not, modern biology does describe things in
evolutionary terms.  According to the best and most recent science,
monkeys and humans share ancestors and have much of the same DNA.

Peggy bill