France Creations Service Inc - scam?

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Request for Question Clarification by politicalguru-ga on 21 Jul 2005 16:15 PDT

Dear Holms, 

Coudl you please disclose more details regrading your encounter with
this firm? Did they approach you through email? How did you hear about
their proposals?

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Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 21 Jul 2005 20:29 PDT

Hello holms-ga,

Is this the company/site you're asking about? If not, please provide
more information so we can identify the target of your inquiry.
Thanks.

~ czh ~

http://www.france-creations.be/francecreationsmenu.htm     
France-creations 
Small corner of relaxation with my creations, kits papers of the week
for Outlook, Incrédimail, blinkies, tags, wallpapers, plays vidéos,
poems, chart-virtual, humour, misadventures, signatures on request,
creations personal, a Signal and a directory.

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Clarification of Question by holms-ga on 08 Aug 2005 12:41 PDT

http://fcs-line.org/index.htm

Dear Holms, 

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My recommendation, based on my finding, is to avoid any involvement
with this site. Several issues raise concerns and urge caution.

First, the site claims to be a French site. 
* Yet, "Whois" sites reveal a site, whose owners are registered in an
address in the United States, not in France.
* The site also contains no French version, and its English version is
full of grammar and spelling errors, including the usage of the term
"France" as an adjective (the adjective is of course, French).

In their "About Us" page they list several facts that seem bogus. 
* Take for example the details of the company's founders (as later
further discussed); or the registration details listed there.
* The site is clearly geared towards people with little understanding
of the French taxation system, with usage of - for example - EIN
(Employee Identification Numbers) - to discuss businesses that are
allegedly in France, employing no one in the United States.
* It claims to be a public company (with shares), but there is neither
public information available, nor is there any investor's information.
* "Incorporating Service Ltd." is a non-existant business; and "E&E
Services Inc." performs geological and earth-related surveys - it is
hard to believe that such a construction company moonlights as an
accountant...

FAQ section - Needless to say, that the "business offer" itself is
somewhat dodgy. You are supposed to receive commission from money
transfers abroad. They claim that this is done for "our clients, who
are unable to transfer funds abroad, and are only able to transfer
funds by checks within the USA". However, if the site itself uses
Western Union / MoneyGram, there should be no reason why clients may
need you to cash their cheques: even someone without a bank account
could use Western Union.

Now a little background about Western Union. Western Union is a way to
send money through post offices (and not to a receiver's bank
account). It has its merits: if someone has no bank account (for
example, in a developing country), or if they have problems accessing
their bank, they can collect the money in their local post office. It
also has its risks: this is the same as sending money through the
post: if you know the receiver, this is great. Many people mail their
families (or trusted business partners) money that way. However, if
you would later like to cancel your payment, it is not possible,
unlike bank-transfer. For this reason, scam artists have been quick on
using Western Union: even if the victim later understands that it is a
scam (for example, that cheque bounces), there is no way for them to
receive their money back.

Founders - As I promised, here is a review of the nice looking guys
(there are picture agencies to provide you with such pictures),
appearing under the page "founders". If this wasn't sad (because some
people might fall for that), it had been very funny.
* All of the names, barring Frank Melie, are unknown. Moreover, the
Melie known to the world is a music critic, not a business manager.
* "Oser City", mentioned on the site, does not exist. By the way, in
French, "oser" means "to dare".
* The name "Piere" is not usually spelt with one "r" in France.
* Our one "r"-ed Piere was not the manager of Aquachart, either. The
manager of the Latvian "AQUACHART" shipping company between 1997 and
2002 was Aleksandr Pe?kov (See the homepage of the Baltic Commerce
Bank, <http://www.baltikums.lv/28206.html>, in Latvian, the same site
in English, <http://www.baltikums.com/28207.html>).
* In general, the term "SIA", that appears on several C.V.s there, is
the Latvian equivalent of "Ltd." ("limited") in English: perhaps part
of the explanation for the bad English and the lack of French on the
site, is that they've used automatic translation machine (or a very
bad human translator), and naturally the machine did not translate a
term such as SIA.
* I don't think I have any comments on the fact that they include a
person allegedly named "Cyber Guru" there. Let me give you a hint: my
real name is also not Political Guru.
* In any case, you can see the managers of "Kompass Tranzits
Ventspils" (or contact this Latvian shipping company) on:
Kompass Tranzits 
<http://www.kompass-tranzits.com/eng/inside.htm> 
* Alen, again, is not a standard French name (but then again, so is
"Cyber Guru"). The French spelling for the name is "Alain".

The Contact Page - hmmm... Having a Latvian  postal code on a French
address? (LV stands for "Latvia", and "LV - 1539" is in fact a real
postal code in Riga, the Latvian capital. Postal codes in France have
5 digits, and in Paris the last two digits of the postal code indicate
the arrondissement. (See more about it at : Wikipedia, List of French
Postal Codes, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_postal_codes>).

And last but not least, see an almost identical question, with only
the name of the company changed (but not even the affinity to Latvia),
including (ab)using Career Builder:
 IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ? 
<http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=467918> 

I hope this answers your question. Please contact me if you need any
further clarifications on this answer before you rate the answer.
Search strategy: searching for terms that have appeared in the site,
using "Whois" to identify the site's registration details.

This might be what he was talking about.  I received this email today
via careerbuilder; I never will reply to theses types of emails, but I
always like to investigate these things.  Here's the text (I removed
the supposed person's name, although the email sender had a different
one):


My name is *** and I am the manager of France Creations Service Inc..
I recently found your resume online and wanted to get in touch with
you. We are expanding our sales force by hiring applicants from a variety
of different backgrounds and we believe you have the potential to be an
excellent match.

We are hiring goal-oriented individuals like you right now. First year
earnings, advances and bonuses can range from $60,000 to $80,000 for new
representatives. No experience is necessary. We provide full training to
help maximize your earning potential. If you wish to excel within a company
that has a proven record of success, then I would like to speak with you.
France Creations Service Inc. has upheld a well-known industry
reputation for financial
stability and quality service for over 12 years.
If you are interested, please email your application and CV or resume back.

I also received that email today.
It does arouse suspicion, since
there is no reference to this 
company on Google.

I got this, from James Garrahan, supposedly, "James Garrahan"
<CandidateEmail@site.careerbuilder.com> [he may be an actual
CareerBuilder employee - who knows?

I have no compunction spreading details of scam/SPAM promulgators and their names!

I copied the whole thing, and used the "feedback form"
[http://www.fuzeqna.com/careerbuilder/consumer/question.asp]
CareerBuilder provides at the bottom of all such contacts to complain
and report the abuse.  Let's all do it!

Piet

We have recently reviewed your resume	 
My name is Roger Smith and I am the manager of France Creations
Service Inc.. I recently found your resume online and wanted to get in
touch with
you. We are expanding our sales force by hiring applicants from a variety
of different backgrounds and we believe you have the potential to be an
excellent match.

We are hiring goal-oriented individuals like you right now. First year
earnings, advances and bonuses can range from $60,000 to $80,000 for new
representatives. No experience is necessary. We provide full training to
help maximize your earning potential. If you wish to excel within a company
that has a proven record of success, then I would like to speak with you.
France Creations Service Inc. has upheld a well-known industry
reputation for financial
stability and quality service for over 12 years.
If you are interested, please email your application and CV or resume back

If you have questions or comments for CareerBuilder.com, please use
our feedback form.
This email was sent from Account ID A8H54X75Y3MWF7SP93B and by this
logged in User U8H88P5WR656J6ZTHKN

Igot the same e-mail on 8/5/05.  I'll turn it in also

just got it also today when i signed up for career builder, 05 August 2005

I have also received this exact e-mail today (8-8-05).  This also had
one name for the e-mail sender and one name for the person doing the
inquiring.  I will also turn it in.  Thanks :)

I also received an email today from "thomas dejong" or "roger smith".
I was also told that if I was interested to send my CV and resume. I
suggest that everyone file a complaint using the feedback! I am sure
glad I looked this up!

I was just sent this email today via CareerBuilder.  I also noticed
the sender name did not match the person who actually wrote the email.
It seemed pretty weird to me as well. So I searched the company on
CareerBuilder and could not find anything that matches.  Then I
googled it and got this link.  I believe somebody is probably phishing
for information, hacking or trying to send a virus.  I am definetly
going to contact careerbuilder about this.

-agigle

Actually, LV - 1539 even isn't a valid Latvian postal code; LV-1xxx
indeed are the postal codes for Riga, however, there aren't 539 post
offices in Riga. But I guess this doesn't matter much.

Received a similar message toaday from this:
"My name is Roger Smith and I am the manager of France
Creations Service Inc.. I recently found your resume
online and wanted to get in touch with you...."
But it was sent from Pointafter.com.

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