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IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
Category: Business and Money Asked by: tulipedge-ga List Price: $50.00 |
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02 Feb 2005 20:46 PST
Expires: 04 Mar 2005 20:46 PST Question ID: 467918 |
I got a job offer from a web based company ( easy-transfer.org) to transfer money . I will recieve a check from their clients in USA which I will deposit in my checking account ( bank of america ) and cash it . I will keep 5 % of that ammount as my commision and the rest I will transfer to the place and person where they ask me to by western union or money gram etc . they informed me via email that their main office is in Latvia and their business Id # is 37592596 and this type of money transfer is legalised with legislations of countries they work with ( USA , Canada , europe , Russia , Ukraine , etc) . I would like to know If it is legal for me to work as their courier in USA and transfer funds as they tell me to . I do need to earn some money but I dont want to be involved in a scam either and face goverment penalties . PLEASE HELP |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 03 Feb 2005 05:30 PST Rated: |
Dear tulipedge, The highly obscure nature of the "company" Easy-Transfer makes it easy to give the advice to avoid dealing with them under all circumstances. All the comments below, provided by my colleagues and by alert customers, are correct in warning you and in pointing out the shady character of Easy-Transfer. Though I can't give you legal advice, I intend to provide you definitive proof that Easy-Transfer is a scam. This should be as good, if not better than evaluating whether the deal they proposed is illegal under U.S. laws. As mentioned below, the alleged contact address of Easy-Transfer is 506 James Street, P.O. Box 974, Brainerd, Minnesota, U.S.A. 56401. Scam businesses often use fake addresses to appear credible and to avoid being tracked by their victims. In this case, however, the fraudsters behind Easy-Transfer were clumsy: The address actually exists, but it belongs to the local newspaper "The Brainerd Daily Dispatch": http://brainerddispatch.com/docs/contactus.shtml While one could still imagine that the newspaper offices share the same building with other businesses, it is absolutely impossible that they even share the same P.O. Box - so how could it be that Easy-Transfer and the Brainerd Daily Dispatch both have P.O. Box 974? The answer is easy: The fraudsters whose brainchild Easy-Transfer is simply randomly took the newspaper's address, to make their scam look more authentic. Scammers usually assume that their potential victims will not check if the alleged office address exists and what is really located there. Follow this link to a targeted Google Search, and you will see that the address 506 James Street, P.O.Box 974, in Brainerd is connected with the Brainerd Daily Dispatch only, and not with any other businesses: ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22brainerd+mn%22+%22506+james%22+%22box+974%22&btnG=Google+Search By the way - the telephone contact information on the Easy-Transfer website sounds more than fishy: "If you are hearing the signals of fax, it means - all lines are busy - send us a fax and we will recall to you or send the answer to your fax." For me, this translates as: 'We will never answer the phone to avoid being confronted with questions'. That means, if it is their telephone number at all. It's not impossible that the number was chosen as randomly as the address. And what reputable international business would have only one single, combined phone/fax connection? http://www.easy-transfer.org/contact.htm So the result is: Easy-Transfer provides a fake address. A reputable company would not, under no circumstances, do that. They are definitely a scam. I hope this will be useful! Regards, Scriptor |
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thanks I think now I realize that I have been involved in a scam rather than agenuine buisness . I am straightway going to police and find out what they can do about this company . |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: dragon_2-ga on 02 Feb 2005 21:18 PST |
Caution! Extreme Caution! Ed. |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: lufty-ga on 02 Feb 2005 22:51 PST |
1. If they are a foreign company (Latvia) why do they only list a US address in their contact us page? 506 James Street, P.O. Box 974, Brainerd, Minnesota, U.S.A. 56401 2. The address listed is for the Brainerd Dispatch, hummmm starting to wonder. http://brainerddispatch.com/docs/contactus.shtml 3. According to Whois their contact informaiton is the same as the above address, still don't see a Latvia connection: Registrant Name:Frank Longerd Registrant Organization:Easy-Transfer.ORG Registrant Street1:P.O. Box 974 Registrant City:Brainerd Registrant State/Province:MN Registrant Postal Code:56401 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.7633225014 Registrant FAX:+1.7633225014 Registrant Email:Frank_Longerd@easy-transfer.org 4. The domain was created on 29th Nov 2004 for a company that has been around since late 2000, 4 years later to have a website is kinda late. (funny that the website was only registered for one year, I guess they plan on getting caught soon?) Created On:29-Nov-2004 19:21:58 UTC Last Updated On:29-Jan-2005 04:03:20 UTC Expiration Date:29-Nov-2005 19:21:58 UTC 5. If their partners are Bank of America, PayPal, TravelersExpress MoneyGram and Western Union why would they need you? Smells like a rat...... |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: lufty-ga on 02 Feb 2005 22:53 PST |
by the way, how much money do you have to send them so you can starting "working" for them? |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: cynthia-ga on 02 Feb 2005 23:11 PST |
SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT I would not go near this company with my dead father's 10 foot pole. |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: tulipedge-ga on 02 Feb 2005 23:12 PST |
they didn't ask me to send any money to them . It was basically a job I found in carrerbuilder.com and sort of applied for it as it seemed easy work and relatively easy money. |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: funkywizard-ga on 02 Feb 2005 23:35 PST |
I would say they are definitely trying to scam someone. Usually they would try to scam you, but in this case it looks more like money laundering. The idea here is they pay you so that the people who exchange money between each other don't get connected to each other, so that they can make payments for illicit things using you as the go between. This can be to avoid taxes, launder money, or, depending on the cirumstances, hide the money transfer itself. They could also be forging checks or otherwise expecting you to commit check fraud for them and then wire them the money. Either way, I would say that specifically doing what they say might not be illegal per-se, but how are you going to account for any large money transfers? If you regularly have large sums of money in your bank account that isn't accounted for on your taxes, you risk getting hit by the irs. In any case, the reason why anyone would have you do transfers like this is almost certainly to further illegal activity, and they are using you because they need a fall guy, or a method for plausible deniability. I would suspect they intend to transfer money this way through dozens of people to shield themselves from prosecution for whatever it is they are doing. |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: answerfinder-ga on 03 Feb 2005 00:52 PST |
Dear tulipedge-ga I am a retired New Scotland Yard Detective who served in their Fraud Squad. From what you?ve said so far, I would say that you are being asked to be involved in money laundering ? that is a criminal offence in the UK, and I have no doubt in the US. They wish to use your bank account to launder money which is either from tax evasion/fraud, phishing, fraud or drugs. Do not communicate or engage with these people. answerfinder-ga |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: cynthia-ga on 03 Feb 2005 02:38 PST |
SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT tulipedge, If you think this offer is legit, take everything you have to your local police department and ask them to look into it. I can GUARANTEE you this is not a legal business. Why would a legit business need to have customers deposit money into the bank account of a PRIVATE CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, and then ask them, for a 5% FEE, to then TRANSFER the same money, less the 5%, to another account? Where is the PRODUCT? (FYI: the PRODUCT is MONEY) This is a no-brainer. Unless you don't understand the consequences of FEDERAL FELONIES, or wouldn't mind a long stint in a Federal Prison with "3 HOTS AND A COT," well, go ahead. Of course if you are getting up there in years, and need a long-term retirement home, well, go ahead, you'll be well cared for in a 6 by 9 foot cell. Consider this. This SCAM company will be caught. All your emails will then be read by the Federal Government. They will confiscate your computer and eventually be led to THIS PAGE, where they can prove in court that people told you this was a SCAM. After thet, the Federal Government will charge you as a Conspirator. Bye-Bye. Good Luck to you, --personally, I have said my piece, and I am outta here. I repeat: I would not go near this company with my dead father's 10 foot pole. SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT-SCAM-ALERT |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: capitaineformidable-ga on 03 Feb 2005 03:55 PST |
For further info on this type of scam see the link to a previous question on ?ga. Subject: On-Line transaction escrow service http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=457895 The embedded link: http://www.carbuyingtips.com/fraud.htm explains in detail how the whole scam works. There are or four or five scams running simultaneously,? your? money laundering part is just the final piece in the puzzle. It is not only car buying scams in particular, that is just the title of the piece. It can affect anything which is offered for sale on the internet (transport e.g. cars, power motor cycles etc and electronic goods seem to be favourite but it can be anything). It is a long article but certainly worth the read. Hope that this and the above helps you make the right decision. Best regards cf. |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: mikomoro-ga on 03 Feb 2005 04:29 PST |
Hi, Tulipedge It may be that they have just been 'phishing' for your bank account details, so if you have already disclosed these, contact your bank immediately. I would not go near this company even with Cynthia's dead father's 10 foot pole. Mike |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: harijs-ga on 04 Feb 2005 13:17 PST |
If it matters, this way of money transfer is not legal in Latvia, too. |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: ilyanep-ga on 09 Feb 2005 17:16 PST |
Hmm...I agree with lufty it should be somewhat obvious if it's supposedly a Latvian company and it lists only a US addy |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: kurk-ga on 19 Mar 2005 17:27 PST |
Well, I would say that these lads aren't in the pokey yet. I just received the following from them: * * * * * * * * Your email was provided to us by Employment Advisory Corporation (EAC), from www.careerbuilder.com. You were advised by this company, but we still need to talk to you personally. We are sending you this letter because you are suitable for the work we have to offer. Our company Easy-Transfer.org is engaged in international trade and due to the growing area of our partnership, we are recruiting new employees. Your state was chosen to be the first in this process, thus the job offer will expire very soon. The work conditions are: frequent access to internet, your contacts to keep in touch with you to give you new tasks. You should complete them in two days at the most. Other requirements are: responsibility, loyalty and willingness to cooperate any day, any time. The job is not hard and doesn't take much time, but very responsible. For more information and to confirm your will to work for us, please fill in the form here http://easy-transfer.org/signup/index.htm We will contact you in a day at the latest to give you our final decision. In any way, first month will be a fully-paid trial, after which you will sign a contract. * * * * * * * * Now, I spent some time in the banking business and this is what I see coming: These lads have a check or a draft sent my way for a modest amount of money. I deposit it in my bank of account, rake my 5%, and wire the remainder out to the lads. Hey, this is easy! The lads have another check or a draft sent my way for a slightly larger amount of money. I deposit it in my bank of account, rake my 5%, and wire the remainder out to the lads. I am beginning to like this. Yeah, it could be dirty money but I don't know that... The lads have more checks or a drafts sent for increasingly larger amounts. I deposit them and rake my 5%, and religiously wire the remainder out. It's easy and automatic. Everything is working out fine. I'm making more and more every passing week... Then one day I receive a check for a goodly and substantial sum. I deposit it, rake my 5%, and wire out the remainder of the funds. Two days later the check comes back to my bank unpaid by the bank on which it is drawn. My bank wants to charge the item back against my account. But I have wired out the money. All of a sudden, the lads are not so easy to find... Guess who's left holding the bag? It's an old con(fidence) game and needless to say, I won't be responding to their offer of employment... |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: cpuwzd-ga on 20 Mar 2005 11:12 PST |
I just received a phishing email that purported to be from Bank One. On investigating the HTML behind the message, it appears that verifying your account number and password will result in this information being sent to "http://easy-transfer.org/cgi-bin/check.cgi". This should put to rest any questions about the authenticity of easy-transfer.org. This is an out-and-out fraud. easy-transfer.org resolves to IP address 205.209.185.133. Reverse lookup on this IP address yields Managed Solutions Group, Inc., 46750 Fremont Blvd. #107, Fremont, CA 94538 as the holder of a block of 16384 IP addresses, including this one. I assume that this is the ISP providing service for easy-transfer. |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: izguy-ga on 20 Mar 2005 11:59 PST |
hey... I just wanted to say I got the exact same e-mail yesterday, and it seemed "too good to be true" as they say. Well remember..."They" say this for a reason. I didnt contact them but decided to look into it which is what brought me to this site. Thanks for your insight and confirming what I believe to be true. Remember, nothing is free...and usually not easy either.... |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: spartancaver-ga on 22 Mar 2005 04:08 PST |
1. It is money laundering to take someone else's funds (check) deposit in your account and send part of it along somewhere else. See the movie "Clear and Present Danger if you don't understand this. "He was paying Lindo Coffee $1500 a pound for coffee" 2.You cash the check against your account at your bank. "Their" part of the cash is carried to Western Union and you buy them a money transfer. 3. Next Western Union will ask you where the cash is to be picked up on the other end, you give them the city, but once you send the confirmation information the cash can be picked up at any of a billion Western Union locations around the world. Bye bye cash, bye bye crooks. 4. You still got the check making it's rounds in the bank system when "WOAH" you get a note from your bank the check has bounced, account and bank never existed. And would you please come in and bring some real cash to cover the bounced check and bounce check fees? Western Union says the cash was picked up in Asknomore, Turkey and it ain't coming back to you. Yes sir you are on the hook to cover any check cash against your account, real or not. Moral of the story. When accepting any "paper notes" bank term for checks, money orders, teller's drafts, etc... for anything including selling a used car to a stranger etc...You had better 100% know the people you are dealing with, where they live, where they work, where they got for a pint, so if the "paper" is no good you can let them know you will be contacting the police if the real money isn't returned to you. I have had many bounced checks, but knowing where the man lives and having a conservation with his wife, has allways had the funds fully restored. Keep Clear SpartanCaver |
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Re: IS this way of MONEY TRANFER LEGAL in USA ?
From: purecountry777-ga on 24 Mar 2005 22:54 PST |
I have now recieved 6 emails from this person. Tonight though he wanted me to get some credit cards to use so I can earn "100 - 200 dollars daily". This does sound like money laundering to me too. But with the bank my first thought was that you could end up with a bounced check, I told this person that my bank holds the check for 21 days and he agreed to it... Go figure. |
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