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Subject: #3 Exmples of Companies that produced great first products, but bad #2 products
Category: Business and Money
Asked by: jeffbhc001-ga
List Price: $175.00
Posted: 22 Apr 2005 06:27 PDT
Expires: 23 Apr 2005 16:38 PDT
Question ID: 512653
I need several examples of companies that introduced great first
products when they were small and starved (but led by someone with a
strong vision).

Later, when they had some money and could devote the resources to
market research and product development,their second product
represented the best of these efforts but didn't do well becasue its
development was not driven by a person's single vision - instead it
was developed more by committee.

Apple's Lisa product is a good examples, but that was long ago.  I'd
like more current examples.

Request for Question Clarification by bobbie7-ga on 22 Apr 2005 07:21 PDT
Hello Jeffbhc001,

I found a listing of major flops at the following link:
http://flop.biography.ms/

One example could be:

 ?In the 1980s, Commodore International became the first company to
sell a million home computers. Hoping to repeat the success of its
multi-million-selling VIC-20 and C-64 computers, it released the
Commodore Plus/4 in 1984. It flopped. Commodore tried--and mostly
failed--for 10 years to duplicate the C-64's success and went bankrupt
in 1994.?

Does anything else on this list serve your purpose?

Thanks,
Bobbie7

Clarification of Question by jeffbhc001-ga on 22 Apr 2005 07:39 PDT
I see some in the computer section.  But I need examples that fit a
certain profile.

Great first product when an innovative visionary like Steve Jobs is
overseeing things.  All the details come together right - perhaps by
luck.

The next product of the same compnay does not have a visionary
overseeing it - perhaps becasue they are busy running their larger
business - it has grown becasue of the success of the first product. 
Instead of being developed under a single vision, the second prduct is
being developed by a team/committee.  Even though they have beeter
resources, they do not have the clarity of vision.

The computer industry is a good one to focus on I guess.  But other
industries would be good too.

Comodore, Lisa, ??

The reference to Steve Jobs being forced out of the Lisa project is
interesting.  Perhaps this is a thread to follow.  I need the story
and details of a few examples.

Does this help?

j

Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 22 Apr 2005 12:44 PDT
Hello jeffbhc001-ga,

One of our favorite customers, lindstrom-ga, was also writing a book
and was looking for various interesting examples to illustrate his
points. He developed a model for getting multiple answers to the same
question that worked very well.

http://answers.google.com/answers/search?q=%22Asked+by%3A+lindstrom-ga%22&qtype=all

Lindstrom-ga posed questions where he wanted multiple examples.
Researchers provided possible answers in the Comments section.
Lindstrom got the chance to choose the ones that he found useful. He
then directed a personal question to each researcher that gave a
useful answer and gave it five stars. This is a fail-safe way of
getting totally satisfactory answers when there is a subjective
element to the question or you're looking for many examples.

Take a look at how this works.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=288562
Subject: Re: Rituals in branding 
From: lindstrom-ga on 20 Dec 2003 03:27 PST     

Hello pinkfreud-ga, knowledge_seeker-ga, aht-ga, bobbie7-ga, leli-ga, 
manticore1234-ga, aceresearcher-ga and journalist-ga no no,

Thanks for your enormous contribution. It's really been some great
stuff you've found for me even though I couldn't use it all.

However this leads me to the payment - a tricky one right? Well I've
decided to pay a small fee those of you* who managed to find
information, which will end up in my book....

These are: (list of names follows)

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=293561
Q: pinkfreud-ga 

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=328322
Private question to bobbie7-ga


I think your current question would be very suitable for this type of approach.

Good luck.

~ czh ~


 






You post a question for

Clarification of Question by jeffbhc001-ga on 22 Apr 2005 13:54 PDT
What is the question or request for clarification on this one?

Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 22 Apr 2005 14:12 PDT
Hello again jeffbhc001-ga,

I'm suggesting that you close this question and repost following the
example set by lindstrom-ga. Check the links I've provided to
understand why this might be a more productive approach. Since there's
a tight deadline I'd like you to be able to get as many answers as
possible.

Good luck.

~ czh ~

Clarification of Question by jeffbhc001-ga on 22 Apr 2005 14:15 PDT
On this one I am having trouble seeing where the multiple questions are.  

J

Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 22 Apr 2005 14:43 PDT
Hi jeffbhc001-ga,

Here are some examples of this type of questions. Some were
successfully answered and lindstrom-ga asked private questions of the
researchers with the accepted answers posted in comments. Others
weren't answered and the questions were expired.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=329300
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=330404
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=330402
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=329360

Here's a couple of questions from other customers who decided to use
the "lindstrom model" of questioning.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=330595
My question is based on the *lindstrom-ga compensation formulae* and I
solicit the following:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=398256
P.S. I have had a chance to see the brillant way lindstrom-ga uses the
power of GA to get multiple useful answers from the many GA
researchers and I think his clever approach is worth trying on this
question.

Good luck.

~ czh ~

Clarification of Question by jeffbhc001-ga on 22 Apr 2005 19:22 PDT
I am under a deadline for the manuscript to get out on Monday.  I will
have a chance after that is done to read through all these Linstrom
techniques.  I will do fact checking later, I was just hope to
generate some strong stories to spice up a weak part of the text.

I was hoping that a high list price would generate some interest in
meeting my requests.
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Subject: Re: #3 Exmples of Companies that produced great first products, but bad #2 produ
From: webadept-ga on 22 Apr 2005 07:59 PDT
 
Of course the movie industry would have thousands of examples of the
visionary being replaced by the committee and the committee flopping.
Creativity by committee is something like chimpanzees making pancakes,
only not quite as funny.

webadept-ga
Subject: Re: #3 Exmples of Companies that produced great first products, but bad #2 products
From: jeffbhc001-ga on 22 Apr 2005 08:23 PDT
 
If there was a story about the management of the movie process, that
would be OK.  There are many flop sequels, but eh story behind one
where it went from a strong visionay to a well intentioned and well
resourced committee is what I am looking for.
J
Subject: Re: #3 Exmples of Companies that produced great first products, but bad #2 produ
From: easterangel-ga on 22 Apr 2005 12:55 PDT
 
I agree with my colleague, czh-ga, that lindstrom-ga's strategy for
formulating questions would be ideal for queries like this one.

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